Is AKC Killing The GSD - Page 4

They darn sure are. I offered for free to make sure all AKC puppies have both parents OFA  certified or no papers. We got into a heated discussion needless to say. They won't answer my emails anymore. All about money they don't care a lick about the dogs just the paper money

I have a question then... If the AKC is just a registry and not worried about controlling everything it touches then why doesn't it recognize working titles? Why , then will it not recognize anything that is not AKC? I would love to see a pedigree from the AKC with my dogs history... every other registry recognizes the working titles of my dogs ancestors. The AKC seeks to control everything. Why is it that America is not involved in the FCI? Simple answer... AKC doesn't want to let go of its control... If it did then it would have to play by someone elses rules. You say they are just a registry... no they are the Umbrella of all of the clubs... if I am not wrong the AKC (registry) has an executive board, why would a simple registry need such a thing. I don't care if you are a show person or a working line person... the GSD should be titled in somthing... CDX, TDX, SchH, IPO, HGH... please do somthing with a dog that has a purpose of working. Even in the breed standard it is worded that the design of the GSD is to work. Don't take away from such a great breed and ruin it by following the all mighty AKC and its direction. But more and more, I see disfigured, poor hip,nervey, washed out color GSD's... but hey they are purebred and have AKC registration... lets breed those dogs! Yes the AKC is killing the GSD... and if you are of the opinion that the AKC is just a registry and not responsible then your argument must be that it is then the GSDCA. Puputz  said it best... "as far as I know, nobody is exporting these American shepherds overseas." Why is this? It is because the AKC/GSDCA has killed the GSD here in America!!!

Michael

On the akc web site it describes the GSD: 

" The ideal dog is a working animal with an incorruptible character combined with body and gait suitable for the arduous work that constitutes its primary purpose". 

If they would require their breeders to stick to this small line things could be much better for the breed.

Breed a WORKING DOG with INCORRUPTIBLE CHACATER with a BODY STRUCTURE that is suitable for ARDUOUS WORK that constitutesits PRIMARY PURPOSE.

Last week I had a conversation with an akc gsd breeder.  I was told that "These people bringing the czech dogs ito the country are ruining our breed!

Raven ... I think they say that only because, Czech dogs have very high drives, AKC breeders can't handle the drives and activities from these dogs and blame czech for bad and hard temperments. Some people just have no idea what is good and what isn't. Czech dogs don't belong in the AKC Show breeding circus, but AKC breeders use them for the straight toplines. JMO.

...also, I'd like to mention ... while in heated forum debates regarding the Rottweiler and GSD, alot of newbies ask the question what's the difference between American and German dogs. The AKC breeders jump to the chance and post pictures of both dogs and label them the complete opposite of the truth. Of course we all know why. It's an insult for the German dogs, and the "ethical" AKC breeder posting the info, well, I'll keep that thought to myself. Last time I spoke of this issue ... my son and I had our whole life hijacked into charades, I guess some AKC people you just can't piss off. 

Well....I am beginning to believe that most of the Amer bred gsd breeders do not understand or want to know what the gsd is supposed to be.

I dont think that everyone who wants a gsd should have a gsd.  If you dont have the time or space to work your dog.....dont get one.   Dont breed the drive and desire to work out of a dog just to have a house dog.  There are plenty of dogs out of working line litters that may not make the cut for a patrol dog or top competition dog....but are still close to  what the breed should be.  They are the best candidates for a pet home and should make fine companions.  I am not suggesting I would breed these dogs....but I do feel there is a place and job for them.

I am not a breeder and feel that breeding decisions should be left to EXPERIENCED 

AKC only recognizes the titles earned in their organization.  Isn't the SV the same way? If you enter an AKC Champion at the Sieger would that AKC title be published in the catalog? A CD, CDX, UD, agility title? Can you receive an SV breed survey on a GSD that only has an  AKC performance title? Can you enter one in the working class at the Sieger?I think not. If what I hear is correct,  currently dangerous dog legislation  is being discussed in Germany. What do you think will happen to breeders there if the GSD goes on that list? We are talking a small country the size of Wisconsin; if that passes it will be strickly enforced.What do you think that will do to the sport of Schutzhund in Germany?

You guys really are barking up the wrong tree here. Blame the breeders who breed these bad dogs, not the AKC for not stopping them. Don't dog breeders have enough to to contend with? Legislature banning specific breeds, legislature making it illegal to own an intact dog over 6 months of age? How you must keep your dogs? When you dogs can bark? And you want more? You must be joking.

It is not the fault of the AKC that there are bad GSD's running the streets. It is the people who breed them who are the problem. You can argue til you're blue in the face which is the best, GSD, American line or imported.  I read time after time how bad the American lines are and how they are ruining the breed.  I assume all doing the complaining have eye checks, EPI and vWD tests, elbow and hip xrays, health checks, titles and breed surveys on ever litter they breed. Ever read some of the ads on this board and look at some of the poor quality dogs your peers are tying to pass off on buyers as "world class"? Coats, dog with deformed toplines, bad feet and pasterns. on and on. The imported beeders have doen their share of putting bad dogs on the street too. It's not just the American lines.

You are fiddling while Rome burns  by ignoring the real issue dog breeders are facing in this country and now the entire world,  AR extremisits and their goal to make it that no one can ever breed another litter as long as there is one dog sitting in a shelter. Worry about that instead and forget about bashing the AKC and Am line breeders and they should be doing the same.

breeders

sorry for the double post

HI Sunsilver, you are right Hunte did withdraw his memberhsip application in the GSDCA but only after that board met and decided to request that he did so. Not surprised to hear he belongs to other breed clubs. I suspect they really didn't want him, but accepted him since they don't have the funds to fight a descrimination lawsuit.  He has intimidated his way into their membership roater. The GSDCA has a very large Treasury and I guess they felt they cold put their money where they mouths were if he sued.

You are fiddling while Rome burns  by ignoring the real issue dog breeders are facing in this country and now the entire world,  AR extremisits and their goal to make it that no one can ever breed another litter as long as there is one dog sitting in a shelter. Worry about that instead and forget about bashing the AKC and Am line breeders and they should be doing the same.

Just one small thing I want to correct in the above statement, Blitzen, which I otherwise totally agree with...PETA's agenda is NOT to prevent breeding until all shelter dogs are rehomed. It's to ELIMINATE ANIMAL OWNERSHIP COMPLETELY!!  ALL animals, domestic and wild, are to be allowed to live out their lives as their natural instincts dictate, free from human control and intervention.

Free the animals...never mind they've been domesticated for thousands of years, and many could never survive without human stewardship!

What a bunch of idiots!!