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sueincc

by sueincc on 18 June 2007 - 03:06

I guess since we will be putting schutzhund titles on our dogs we will have to live with the fact that you don't take us seriously!


by Jeff Oehlsen on 18 June 2007 - 03:06

No, if that is all that is available to you, then go ahead and do it. Please read my whole post, and don't put your defensiveness into my post. I personally cannot take Sch seriously, as I have seen dogs that almost went into avoidance in the courage test magically get pronounced. I cannot take what it has become seriously. I know that my dog Axel could have done Sch, and passed the 3. Not good. I loved him to death, but he wasn't really the kind of dog that should have been able to pass the 3.

Want to answer the questions???


sueincc

by sueincc on 18 June 2007 - 03:06

I'm not a show person & I don't know enough to answer your questions, I was just being flip.


sueincc

by sueincc on 18 June 2007 - 16:06

I guess I don't really understand your questions.  You are unhappy with the critique of one dog and are questioning how someone knows their dog has good angulation? 


by Jeff Oehlsen on 18 June 2007 - 17:06

Ok let me try again. I was saying that I can see why there are such differences in what a dog looks like and used the critique to show how there could be confusion.

 

good front angulation, very good rear angulation, very good movement,    OK so this sounds pretty nice right??? Then, the critique ends with this confusing statement. Should reach forward more freely. Well if this is true, then it is not very good movement is it???? Very good is not the same as OK.  Very good should be really close to perfect.

Thge fact that it confused you as to what I was saying just makes my point even stronger. One of the problems I have with Dog Shows is the above statement. The other is that someone is gonna win. At least at a trial when you do not meet the minimum requirements, you do not pass. This should be true at a show.

 

 


by gsdlvr2 on 18 June 2007 - 19:06

Hi all, Thanks for your responses. I looked up the dogs you all posted links to. I couldn't find a picture of Eddy. Does anyone have one or know where I can find one? He sounds like a nice dog from what you said workingdawg. GSD2727-that is a nice example of a show/working combination, the male you bred your Kimo daughter to. That's closer to what I am talking about vs Navar and some of the others which are not good examples IMO. Not my taste. I like a dog who can go anywhere and do anything asked of him. Not a fan of the banana back but as someone said on here the posing of the picture can have alot to do with it. The roached back is too common and accepted for what I would like to see. As, I am considering this, I do have a workingline male in mind as a possibility. He has done respectably at the BSZS and is SCH3 FH2 V KKL 1a. The female I am considering is a showline SCH 2 V KKL 1a. Both of these dogs are good producers and good examples of GSD's. The female has a nice pedigree and is linebred as follows.....5-5 VA1 [Spain} Ora Batu, 5-5 VA 1 {BSZS} Zamb von der Weinerau, 5-5 VA 7 Fedor von Arminius, 5-5 VA 5 Yago vom Wildsteigerland. She has a respectable BSZS rating also. She does not have a roached back. The male is linebred 4-5 G Kim vom Schloss Westhusen. I am not terribly familiar with that yet. His owner is a well respected member of this board also and someone whose opinions I trust. Thanks again for your input.

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 18 June 2007 - 20:06

Last year I tried to breed a spider monkey to a goat.  I had this Idea that I would produce an animal that could milk himself.  Do I need to explain what I got?

Well, to tell you the truth it did not go as planned.  I now have a monkey with hoofs.  He can't milk himself, climb trees, please himself or fling poop.  He is a sad monkey.    On the bright side, he does have a kick ace set of horns and he loves to eat everything!


by gsdlvr2 on 18 June 2007 - 20:06

Don, were any of them able to milk themselves? Did they all have hoofs? :}

Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 18 June 2007 - 20:06

I only got my boy Bob out of that breeding.  Female goats usually have small first litters.  Maybe next year will yeild a better product.


by gsdlvr2 on 18 June 2007 - 20:06

LOL- sounds like a plan :}





 


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