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by MAINLYMAX on 15 June 2011 - 22:06
KG...
12 hr shifts can get you a nice car or truck...new truck $36000.
Here in Nevada and in Arizona a new truck tells people you have
done well...even if you live in a trailer.
I asked a meth dealer how much he made when I did some work for
mule creek prison? He said about $10,000 a week average.
Those drug dealers drive Cars that are about 80-90,000 dollars.
So my point would be that 150,000 for cars and 200,000 for a house
is not a reason for a swat team. If it was...the average working man
may be at risk ...even police make that kind of money on a salary. I have
a friend in the police department that has racked up over $100,000 in over time
before. And that is not unusual.
Having 6 cars is strange, but it would make you a car dealer not a drug dealer.
This kid was a go getter...maybe buying selling cars for extra cash( is legal)...It's a popular
thing in California....You fix it up and sale it....After all, this is America...it least it was.
I think it is still to soon to assume anything....Count the people who have done 3 tours of
duty and get back to me with that.
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12 hr shifts can get you a nice car or truck...new truck $36000.
Here in Nevada and in Arizona a new truck tells people you have
done well...even if you live in a trailer.
I asked a meth dealer how much he made when I did some work for
mule creek prison? He said about $10,000 a week average.
Those drug dealers drive Cars that are about 80-90,000 dollars.
So my point would be that 150,000 for cars and 200,000 for a house
is not a reason for a swat team. If it was...the average working man
may be at risk ...even police make that kind of money on a salary. I have
a friend in the police department that has racked up over $100,000 in over time
before. And that is not unusual.
Having 6 cars is strange, but it would make you a car dealer not a drug dealer.
This kid was a go getter...maybe buying selling cars for extra cash( is legal)...It's a popular
thing in California....You fix it up and sale it....After all, this is America...it least it was.
I think it is still to soon to assume anything....Count the people who have done 3 tours of
duty and get back to me with that.
by MAINLYMAX on 15 June 2011 - 23:06
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Robert said to the Governor..."if they have not broken the law, why did you arrest them?"... The Governor replied
"because they were think about it!!"
More than one thousand students skipped school on May 2 to meet at the 16th Street Baptist Church to join the demonstrations, in what would come to be called the Children's Crusade. More than six hundred ended up in jail.
When they shot Robert I thought to myself...he was the last chance to realize a free country....the country that our forefathers
had envisioned....I felt completely lost after I heard of his assassination.... a random note from Max.
by Myracle on 15 June 2011 - 23:06
Count the people who have done 3 tours of
duty and get back to me with that.
While we're counting people, how about I count the Iraq/Afghanistan Veterans involved in serious felonies. Mostly murder.
Luke Sommer?Alfred Joseph Sanchez?
Landis Pendleton?
David "Doc" Stewart?
Shon Pernice?
Matthew Sepi?
Nathaniel Gordon?
William Adams Jr.?
Jose Aguilar?
Kevin M. Allen?
Russell Alligood?
Kenneth Baginski?
Brandon Bare?
Bruce Bastien Jr.?
Travis D. Beer?
Lucas Borges?
Zackery Bowen?
Ian M. Bowers?
William Bragg?
Jonathan Braham?
Rebecca Braswell?
Louis Bressler?
Donald Brown III?
Shall I continue?
Being a combat vet doesn't make you innocent.
by Myracle on 15 June 2011 - 23:06
As of 2008 [the last year I had to keep statistics on this shit], there were at least 121 OIF/OEF Veterans on trial or in prison for murder.
by Preston on 16 June 2011 - 00:06
(Reuters) - U.S. firearms agents [BATF] told lawmakers on Wednesday they were instructed to only watch as hundreds of guns were bought, illegally resold and sent to Mexico where drug-related violence has raged for years. (Washington June 15, 2011). Agents for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives in Arizona told the House of Representatives Oversight Committee they were told not to arrest the so-called straw buyers and instead see where the guns went.
Republicans and Democrats on the panel expressed outrage about the ATF program -- "Operation Fast and Furious" -- and demanded answers from the Obama administration about why arrests were secondary to tracking the firearms.
"We monitored as they purchased handguns, AK-47 variants and .50 caliber rifles, almost daily at times," John Dodson, an ATF special agent in Phoenix, told the committee. "Rather than conduct any enforcement actions, we took notes, we recorded observations, we tracked movements of these individuals, we wrote reports but nothing more." Dodson said agents were never given reasonable answers why their activities were limited.
An ATF supervisor in Phoenix, Peter Forcelli, said some tried to raise concerns with supervisors but were rebuffed. "My concerns were dismissed," he told the committee. "I believe that these firearms will continue to turn up at crime scenes, on both sides of the border, for years to come." The agents complained they were ordered to break off surveillance of the firearms and instead follow the original gun purchaser rather than track where the weapons went. Drug violence and the flow of guns over the U.S. border into Mexico has developed into a major sore point between the two countries, straining diplomatic ties and leading Mexican officials to openly criticize the United States.
THOUSANDS OF GUNS TRACED BACK TO U.S.
Of the nearly 30,000 firearms recovered in 2009 and 2010 in Mexico, where gun possession is illegal, some 70 percent were determined to have come from the United States, ATF officials told lawmakers last week. The program has renewed the political debate over tougher gun control laws. Republicans, who largely oppose more limits, control the House and President Barack Obama's Democrats, who generally want stricter rules, control the Senate, making it unlikely that such legislation could pass before the 2012 election. Republicans and Democrats expressed outrage at the ATF program, particularly about two weapons being found at the scene where a U.S. Border Patrol agent, Brian Terry, was killed in a shootout with illegal immigrants.
It still has not been revealed whether either of those weapons were responsible for his death. "What we find is that people at the local level overwhelmingly objected to this program but were assured that it was approved at the highest levels," said House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa.
Republicans and Democrats on the panel expressed outrage about the ATF program -- "Operation Fast and Furious" -- and demanded answers from the Obama administration about why arrests were secondary to tracking the firearms.
"We monitored as they purchased handguns, AK-47 variants and .50 caliber rifles, almost daily at times," John Dodson, an ATF special agent in Phoenix, told the committee. "Rather than conduct any enforcement actions, we took notes, we recorded observations, we tracked movements of these individuals, we wrote reports but nothing more." Dodson said agents were never given reasonable answers why their activities were limited.
An ATF supervisor in Phoenix, Peter Forcelli, said some tried to raise concerns with supervisors but were rebuffed. "My concerns were dismissed," he told the committee. "I believe that these firearms will continue to turn up at crime scenes, on both sides of the border, for years to come." The agents complained they were ordered to break off surveillance of the firearms and instead follow the original gun purchaser rather than track where the weapons went. Drug violence and the flow of guns over the U.S. border into Mexico has developed into a major sore point between the two countries, straining diplomatic ties and leading Mexican officials to openly criticize the United States.
THOUSANDS OF GUNS TRACED BACK TO U.S.
Of the nearly 30,000 firearms recovered in 2009 and 2010 in Mexico, where gun possession is illegal, some 70 percent were determined to have come from the United States, ATF officials told lawmakers last week. The program has renewed the political debate over tougher gun control laws. Republicans, who largely oppose more limits, control the House and President Barack Obama's Democrats, who generally want stricter rules, control the Senate, making it unlikely that such legislation could pass before the 2012 election. Republicans and Democrats expressed outrage at the ATF program, particularly about two weapons being found at the scene where a U.S. Border Patrol agent, Brian Terry, was killed in a shootout with illegal immigrants.
It still has not been revealed whether either of those weapons were responsible for his death. "What we find is that people at the local level overwhelmingly objected to this program but were assured that it was approved at the highest levels," said House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa.
by MAINLYMAX on 16 June 2011 - 00:06
Shall I continue?,,,,,,no you can kiss my ass!
3 tours of duty was my request.
You have people who have served...and are now
on trial.....not alot.. as far as I am concerned. Let's
wait to see if our brother was guilty or not....Mudwick
3 tours of duty was my request.
You have people who have served...and are now
on trial.....not alot.. as far as I am concerned. Let's
wait to see if our brother was guilty or not....Mudwick
by Myracle on 16 June 2011 - 00:06
111,043 US Servicemembers had been deployed to Iraq and/or Afghanistan three times as of October 2008.
3 tours of duty was my request.
by Preston on 16 June 2011 - 00:06
Mexican Narco-Trafficker’s Revelation Exposes Drug War’s Duplicity (Narconews.com, April 25, 2011)
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2011/04/mexican-narco-trafficker-s-revelation-exposes-drug-war-s-duplicity
Court Document showing arrestee claims he was working for US Govt.
Case: 1:09-cr-00838 Doc#:70 Filed 3-15-11 Page ID#: 141-142
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/userfiles/70/Zambada.Notice.Rule12.3.pdf
You can copy and paste each of the above references in your search bar line to pull these up.
There are over 100 articles of crashed US Govt and intel drug planes from credible media sources. These cannot be discounted because they provide photos and tail numbers of crashed aircraft.
see if these links work, otherwise print and type in your address bar:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2007/09/27/20060/who-owned-drug-plane-that-crashed.html
http://www.madcowprod.com/10092007.html
If you still think this story is invalid, how about researching Ark State Policemean Russel Welch and IRS Agent Bill Duncan regarding intermtn aviation and Mena Arkansas. Their court depos are probably still available. I used to have them.
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/bill-conroy/2011/04/mexican-narco-trafficker-s-revelation-exposes-drug-war-s-duplicity
Court Document showing arrestee claims he was working for US Govt.
Case: 1:09-cr-00838 Doc#:70 Filed 3-15-11 Page ID#: 141-142
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/userfiles/70/Zambada.Notice.Rule12.3.pdf
You can copy and paste each of the above references in your search bar line to pull these up.
There are over 100 articles of crashed US Govt and intel drug planes from credible media sources. These cannot be discounted because they provide photos and tail numbers of crashed aircraft.
see if these links work, otherwise print and type in your address bar:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2007/09/27/20060/who-owned-drug-plane-that-crashed.html
http://www.madcowprod.com/10092007.html
If you still think this story is invalid, how about researching Ark State Policemean Russel Welch and IRS Agent Bill Duncan regarding intermtn aviation and Mena Arkansas. Their court depos are probably still available. I used to have them.
by Preston on 16 June 2011 - 00:06
Generally speaking the rate of crimes for Iraq and Afghan war vets is low. Their biggest problems are after effects of all the stress of combat and returning to unemployment, problems in their marriages caused by absence, after effects of war trauma including anxiety and discouragement. A fair number who have done repeat tours under stoploss, especially National Guard, have felt used and abused by their govt especially those that enlisted to be weekend warriors in their state only like the ads suggested.
There have been numerous scandals about poor or lacking body armor and missing equipment and backup for these wonderful foks who typically do a great job doing what they believe is serving our country. When sme get back and start thinking about all this, they began questioning why they weresent there and who they were fighting for, ie the big offshore based banks, corps and defense contractors or the USA.
There have been numerous scandals about poor or lacking body armor and missing equipment and backup for these wonderful foks who typically do a great job doing what they believe is serving our country. When sme get back and start thinking about all this, they began questioning why they weresent there and who they were fighting for, ie the big offshore based banks, corps and defense contractors or the USA.
by Myracle on 16 June 2011 - 01:06
Failure to read your contract and comprehend it is your own fault, not the government's, and it's hardly an excuse for criminal behavior.
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