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by Preston on 12 June 2011 - 22:06

I peruse this site periodically and still enjoy referencing the extradinarily useful GSD pedigrees and photos, which is IMO by far the most valuable contribution that Oli's site has made and has been an most valuable asset for GSD breeders, trainers, owners and buyers.  I have sat by and watched this thread and it is time to pipe in my 2 cents worth.  I have known a number of highly connected police officers I met and worked with in my career.  One was a member of the elite "S squad" in LA, another a special ops sniper called in by several agencies on a moments notice (his weapon a heavy barrel bolt action firing .308 match grade).  I have had numerous dealing with a now retired police officer from another very large American City in the northeast who served on a special "S squad" set up in small ma & pa dairy stores in the late 1960's behind one-way mirrors due to a rash of robberies where perps would shoot first and then gather the booty.  Their job was to immediate "grease" the perp through the mirror with buckshot the instant they saw a gun being drawn or carried in the store (no warrant, no trial).  After a couple weeks of the medical examiner carrying perps out feet first on gurneys, these violent robberies stopped.  These shootings were justified and saved many innocent lives, but this is not always the case in normal everyday swat raids now a days. I have had friends who knew individuals on a notorious alphabet hostage rescue team that always kept saying, "we are honed to kill", or "I am a killing machine", and they would smile and brag about how much they loved delivering fatal head shots and considered any word from above that these targets were bad as enough for them to kill with no  warrant or any consideration for life (these goons acted like they were mindkontrolled zombies).  Thus, their rules of engagement were tilted, illegal and later they were forced to change them at a higher level later on. These elite special ops shooters had extreme esprit de corps and held the blue line no matter what. Most assumed all perps were guilty and deserved death.  Some "S squad" or SOG types I have met disagree with this and think swat teams and special ops are over and mis-used and basically unconstitutional.  The most experienced officer I ever worked with who had a spotless well known record serving on an "S squad" felt that it was wrong to dress up in black uniforms and cover their badges and faces.  He felt all criminals should be arrested by uniformed policement or plain clothes detectives away from their homes so minimize harming children and women and innocent.  He felt smart police would do the proper amount of surveillance with proper warrants and coordination to make clean, safe arrests with minimal risk to the community.  He also told me as I found out first hand many times in my career that 95% of the illegal narcotics were brought in by the intel agencies under dea approved "controlled deliveries" by air freight companies (you would recognize their names) supposedly to catch the "mr. bigs" at the top of the pyramid (local authorioties paid off 10% off of the top).  Of course they never catch the "mr. bigs" because intel is the mr. bigs, and all the drugs continued to reach the street.  In my city, in the late 1980's a certain intel agency used to truck in clean police confiscated weapons from the chitown area and sell them to gang members.  So as many of us who are well informed know it is useless to use expensive swat teams to attack "alleged drug infested homes" for what turns out to be a few rocks of crack.  This excessive and careless use of swat teams to combat higher level crimes of intel exposes the public and the swat members to

by Preston on 12 June 2011 - 22:06

(cont) needles risk.

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 13 June 2011 - 02:06

Ok, this has gotten way to far fetched for me. When this thread comes back to reality I may join back in. This is completely ridiculous. I'm going to bang my head against the wall for a while so I will feel better.

Pirates Lair

by Pirates Lair on 13 June 2011 - 02:06

LOL

Slam

"Picture yourself in place beyond sight and sound, you have entered the Twilight....I mean the Pedigree Forum".

Grab the latest copy of the National Enquirer and don't bang your head too hard.


Kim

Myracle

by Myracle on 13 June 2011 - 06:06

Pass the asprin.

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 13 June 2011 - 13:06

If you scroll down, to the left is all 4 parts in video of this investigation and additional info .  http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-the-gang-behind-the-badge,0,4021055.story  CRAZY !!!


by Preston on 13 June 2011 - 18:06

Reply to Slamdunc & Pirates Lair: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT5MY3C86bk&feature=related
 
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oszATUJ4IRE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K0Md3hYAr8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBh_hzU-jdI&feature=related
 
In March of 1998, CIA Inspector General Hitz delivered his special report to the House Intelligence Committee.  In his report it was determined and admitted that the CIA was complicit in long term illegal narcotic trafficking into the USA.  Shortly after delivering the report and answering questions he resigned.
"On March 16, 1998, CIA Inspector-General Frederick Hitz appeared before the House Intelligence Committee to report on his investigation of the CIA, the Contras and crack cocaine. Hitz testified that, beginning in 1982, the CIA entered into an undisclosed agreement with the Department of Justice, allowing CIA officers to refrain from reporting drug trafficking by its 'agents, assets and non-staff employees'. Hitz admitted that 'there are instances where the CIA did not, in an expeditious or consistent fashion, cut off relationships with individuals supporting the Contra program, who were alleged to have engaged in drug trafficking activity, or take action to resolve the allegation'.
"When asked by Congressman Norman Dicks of Washington, 'Did any of these allegations involve trafficking in the United States?', Hitz's answer was 'Yes'. Hitz acknowledged that the CIA knew of drug trafficking allegations 'regarding dozens of individuals and a number of companies connected in some fashion to the Contra program or the Contra movement'.
"Hitz recounts in Volume II of the Inspector-General's Report dated 10/9/98 that through the secret agreement, the CIA and DoJ attempted to exempt the CIA from reporting about the drug trafficking of persons employed by, assigned to, or acting for an agency within the intelligence community."
Since the CIA itself admitted to having knowledge of its own "assets" being involved in illegal activities, the argument seems to be indisputable.
This secret CIA/DoJ agreement violated a federal statute, 28 USC §535, "which imposes a duty on every department and agency in the Executive Branch to report promptly to the Attorney General any information, allegations or complaints relating to possible violations of [criminal law] by officers and employees of the government." 

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 13 June 2011 - 19:06

This is all very interesting but what does it really have to do with this case?

by Preston on 13 June 2011 - 21:06

Keith, govt drug dealing is the root cause behind excessive police force used against innocent civilians by mistake.  When a portion of the govt goes bad and brings in illegal narcotics to raise "off the books" money for black ops, this dirties up the urban communities, breeds drug gangs and creates an environment of crimes, drugs and death.  And some of these drug gangs are supported by drug cartels financed and supported by US intel agencies and provided heavy firepower (eg recent disclosures about the BATY being caught providing high powered weapons to mexican cartels).This in turn is met with an inceasingly militarized police response which more than occasionally gets out of control.  Here are some examples of hyper charged policemen at work who are mentally unfit for the job in the first place.  And too often confidential informants who are convicted felons provide mistaken, unreliable or bad information on a drug house that is not properly verified before a swat team is sent in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb07-EWfGCg
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYQD-btqhKg&feature=related
 
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-12-17-1137322247_x.htm
 
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Menlo-Park-Cops-Raided-Wrong-House-Says-Claimants-in-Lawsuit-122191569.html
 
http://www.wtvr.com/wtvr-police-officer-facing-20-million-dollar-law-suit-and-new-allegations-20110518,0,4213107.story
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dEhlGXq_3Q&feature=related
  

by Preston on 13 June 2011 - 21:06

Project Gunrunner supplied heavy weapons to mexican cartels as an attempt to provoke so much violence with guns in the SE that could be blamed on American sold weapons, that the Govt could use this and then get new restrictive laws passed that would outlaw high powered weapons sales to law abiding citizens.  This is a very disjointed, unConstitutional, and RICO crime by a US alphabet.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/23/eveningnews/main20035609.shtml 
 

This kind of corruption destroys the very fabric of govt and law enforcement and spreads corruption at all levels.  When the BATF puts such high powered weapons in the hands of the drug cartels, they expected these to be used against US Border Patrol and American Citizens and expected to use it to get more restrictive gun laws passed.  This is at a minimum criminal negligence and perhaps homicide by the officials that designed, approved and initiated the plan.  Thanks to our BATF and intel agencies, drug cartels operating in the USA are now heavily armed.  And there are situations where swat officers have been killed during drug raids by cartel members with high powered weapons.  This breeds hyper vigilance and distrust and a tendency to over-react against the innocent, or those who are mere suspects and have not been adjudicated guilty. Add to this volatile war like situation numerous mistaken addresses and wrong information from flaky, sociopathic or strung out informants and it is a certain formula for lethal mistakes against innocent citizens.  So if you want to clean this mess up, corruption in US intel and alphabets must be addressed.





 


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