Score book resolution? - Page 3

Keith:

    My balls are just fine,but thanks for asking.

Have the balls yourself to admit the GSDCA only keeps the WDA around to be a pain in the ass for USA !  

I don't care whether that's the reason one way or another....never been a member of WDA...but I would guess that after thirty years that wouldn't be the sole reasoning....as hard as this is for you to comprehend I see members of the WDA just as passionate about the sport and the breed as any UScA member.

Once again you didn't answer....if you're scare to come out and just say you are talking about WDA members then say you're scared...


Keith

Keith:

               Actually comprehension seems to be beyond you!

 I,ll type big so you can understand.


STOP    BITCHIN   ABOUT   UScA    AND  BUILD   UP   YOUR  OWN  ORGINIZATION   IF   YOUR   A    WDA   MEMBER .  OBVIOUSLY   THE   MEMBERSHIP   THINKS   IT,S   OKAY   SINCE   IT   HASNT   BEEN   CHANGED   IN   3   NATIONAL    MEETINGS .    


i    HOPE   THIS   HELPS   IF   NOT   I COULD   DRAW    YOU  A  PICTURE   !         

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Your sidestep says it all....



Keith

If the group you belong too doesn't have enough trials for you to title your dog why are you still with them???????? What about the organization is it that makes it your organization of choice? What I see most in these threads are people saying they just want to title their dogs and have fun. What is what, I think everyone wants be it the person who only does club trials or the one that does world events. If that's the case wouldn't you just ask yourself which organization has the most clubs and trials in your area, then join that club? Let's be honest. If the WDA had as many (or close too) the same number of trials that the UScA has every year this would be a non-issue and no one would be talking about it. I can't say I've ever heard anyone in my area talking about trialing in a WDA trial. I also don't know of any other organization that holds functions for their members and allows non-members to participate without an upcharge. If they allow non-members to participate at all. If the WDA is part of the GSDCA and the GSDCA and USA are part of the same parent organization all is good. As long as the paperwork (score books) or correct. PERIOD. On one of these threads the new President of UScA posted on this issue. From what I got out of it is that UScA will abide by the SV guidelines. If the score books are not correct then the UScA is abiding by the rules by not allowing entry in the trial. You can't complain about an organization following proper procedures when it is your organization that is causing the issue. So it sounds, too me, like the WDA and the GSDCA need to get their score books in order to meet the universal criteria then all will be well. So instead of complaining about UScA on the boards why not put preasure on the powers that be in the GSDCA and WDA to fix your issue? Then when your score books are correct everyone can trial and have fun together.

After that, if I were you, I would start putting pressure on the administration to make trials mandatory for clubs. As well as having SV certified judges... Then your clubs can start having some of the UScA members trialing at your clubs and putting money into your clubs coffers.


Fingers crossed for a quick and amicable solution, and an early spring so we can get back too training

Rick

Every AWDF club that hosts IPO trials allows non-members to enter at the club level except UScA.  I know that DVG, USRC and AWMA don't have an upcharge for trials but I wouldn't really have an issue if they charged a bit more for non-members.

Keith

Quote from the Vice-President of UScA on the "SCOREBOOK QUESTION" thread. 

"USCA accepts entry from all WUSV member orgs (GSDCA is a WUSV member and many GSDCA members enter our shows) AWDF member orgs and FCI member orgs, I'm sorry but WDA members refuse to accept the fact that WDA is not a WUSV member. And it is their scorebook that is the problem for entering our events. GSDCA has told us they do not issue scorebooks, so the GSDCA members that want to enter USCA need a recognized scorebook. A GSDCA member with a DVG scorebook will absolutely be allowed to enter USCA event. "



GSDCA doesn't issue scorebooks. And the WDA isn't a member of the WUSV. So a WDA scorebook CAN NOT BE RECOGNIZED. So it can't be recognized at any trial held by a WUSV member club PERIOD. GSDCA members with a scorebook issued by a recognized organization (as mentioned above ie. DVG) are fine. SO GET YOUR PARENT CLUB THE GSDCA TO START ISSUING SCOREBOOKS AND QUIT CRYING UScA THIS AND THAT. IT'S NOT A UScA ISSUE IT'S A WDA ISSUE. EVERYONE WANTS EVERYBODY TO PLAY BY THE RULES UNTIL IT INCONVENIENCES THEM.

At this point my suggestion to you would be to get yourself a scorebook from a recognized organization. and before anyone can try saying that they CAN'T HAVE 2 SCOREBOOKS that rules doesn't apply here. THE WDA SCOREBOOK ISN'T RECOGNIZED PERIOD!!!!!!!! It caries as much weight as a hand written scorebook in pencil on collage ruled paper. NONE, NADDA, ZIP, ZERO, ZILTCH........  So you would only have 1 recognized scorebook. Unfortunately you will have to re-do all your titles, but you were going to be trialing anyway. Right?

the gsdca/gsdca-wda scorebook is recognized by every wusv member organization except for the usca...........
maybe the problem is with the usca and not the other member organization?

take a minute and think about it.....


there is something going.......and the rest of us are not allowed to know.......

SITA the rules are laid out in black and white. PERIOD. There has been no ACTUAL, VERIFIABLE statement for the WUSV on this matter. So UScA is going by the letter of the law as it were. Just because everyone else is doing something that, at this time is against the rules, UScA should do it also?

"take a minute and think about it....." 

Is that what you would say to your children?????????  Underage drinking is illegal kids but since all the other kids at the party are drinking you should do it too???????? I don't think so.