Seziures Kraftwerk K9 - Page 3

DM carrier, especially by the testing standards available today, is not a refund-worthy  genetic fault unless you specifically requested ONLY a N/N or DM clear puppy. 

Back to Kraftwerk...........does anyone check Google before they plunk down thousands of dollars on a puppy? 

<shake-a-shake-a-shake-a-shake> Magic 8 Ball says, 


                                                                                                                         
  

Thanks guys, that Google thingy is fine till you get a whacko who would rather smear you instead wait for a pup, take full refund or even provide OFFA rating so you can give them a pup when you have a litter. :( Too bad google didn't tell me what was in store for me.........your right Hexe, gut feeling is for self preservation.

joan, there's a significant difference between the ranting of a single dissatisfied client, and the veritable   "scroll of sadness"   that can be found if one starts researching Kraftwerk...

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The guy does buy top-flight dogs, there's no question about that, but really, once you start running the kennel name and the owner's name through Google, it's absolutely tragic.  And given that you stand by your dogs already, selling them at a fair price as well, I can't begin to imagine what you'd do for a client who paid the kind of money he gets for his dogs and pups, joan. Hell, for those prices, you could buy health insurance policies for every pup you sold, and STILL be able to expand your training fields, upgrade your facilities every year, and travel to the international competitions every year, too!

Once again,problems are bound to occur with breeders. It is how they deal with and make good on these problems that define a responsible breeder.

Thank you for sharing that article on seizures;  it's interesting they keep referring to Belgian Shepherds,  and pic's of the Terv's so I am wondering if that 20% figure of the Belgian breeds means all of them including the Malinois??

Yes Malinois have a genetic form of epilepsy.  No, the percentages aren't as high as they are in the Tervs or Groens.  IMO this is due to certain popular long haired sires in those varieties/breeds (depending on how you look at the Belgians) who were found later to have or produce epilepsy.  Those lines for the most part don't appear in the Malinois, especially not the working Malinois.  Doesn't mean the disease doesn't happen, or is only linked to those lines, its just not in as high of incidence.  It would be like finding out now that Troll or one of the other frequently used GSD sires produced seizures.

I always err on the side of genetic possibility of the problem and replace the dog. However seizure  by no means caused by genetics only.  If I would have dog with seizure I would not breed it in any case. But I would be careful pointing fingers before you know 100% that the  breeding dogs are have seizures or produced more then one pup with seizures. 
Iconoclast Prager Hans

Yes, seizures can be caused by many things.  But once all the differentials have been accounted for, and the diagnosis is idiopathic epilepsy, you're down to the fact that the dog was born with the disorder, which typically doesn't begin to rear it's ugly head until the dog is a young adult.