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by aries63 on 15 December 2009 - 03:12
I dont have the x rays copies but I have the first documentation sent from ofa that chelsey was mild dysplasia in May of 2009 and the certification sent in august of 2009 her being certified as good from the 2nd x ray can scan in if you want.
by jaggirl47 on 16 December 2009 - 00:12
Prager,
Keep in mind that the xrays may be photos taken with a camera. Mine were. I shot closer up and focused on the hips themselves. The knee caps on mine were xrayed but not photographed. Something to think about instead of reposting the same thing.
Keep in mind that the xrays may be photos taken with a camera. Mine were. I shot closer up and focused on the hips themselves. The knee caps on mine were xrayed but not photographed. Something to think about instead of reposting the same thing.
by amysue on 17 December 2009 - 23:12
Jaggirl - the positioning of your x-rays are bad, but that wouldn't have made a difference. Those heads are bad and from any view they are dysplastic... I'm sorry for your pup. Hopefully he/she won't be affected until much later in life.
MysticalHaus - I have a dog that was pre-limmed with tilted positioning like yours. The former OFA radiologist that took them said the hips were like black and white to him and would certainly pass OFA, but because of the positioning (no doubt) Dr. Keller gave them borderline to be redone at 2 years. Getting someone that really understands how crucial positioning is is very difficult (at least for me it has been). Good luck at 2. BTW, the hips are not at all like Jaggirl's ones. From the size of the picture and clearity, I can't tell if there are imperfections on the head, but if there's not much laxity (with proper positioning), they may just pass.
MysticalHaus - I have a dog that was pre-limmed with tilted positioning like yours. The former OFA radiologist that took them said the hips were like black and white to him and would certainly pass OFA, but because of the positioning (no doubt) Dr. Keller gave them borderline to be redone at 2 years. Getting someone that really understands how crucial positioning is is very difficult (at least for me it has been). Good luck at 2. BTW, the hips are not at all like Jaggirl's ones. From the size of the picture and clearity, I can't tell if there are imperfections on the head, but if there's not much laxity (with proper positioning), they may just pass.

by Lief on 17 December 2009 - 23:12

by Sunsilver on 17 December 2009 - 23:12
Judging hips from photos of x-rays is difficult. However, the joints show excellent congruity, with very little laxity. The left hip is looser, and may have some remodeling of the femoral head, or that could be due to poor positioning and/or a poor photograph.
I know this because I previously commented on an x-ray someone posted here, saying there was remodelling of the joint. The poster then posted a better picture of the x-ray, and in that picture, it was evident the femoral head was fine. IIRC, the dog passed the exam with OFA good.
My personal opinion is they will also rate OFA Good.
The positioning is not great, but I've seen much worse. The pelvis is tilted a little, but it looks like the femurs are parallel to each other. I don't think OFA will reject the x-ray.
I know this because I previously commented on an x-ray someone posted here, saying there was remodelling of the joint. The poster then posted a better picture of the x-ray, and in that picture, it was evident the femoral head was fine. IIRC, the dog passed the exam with OFA good.
My personal opinion is they will also rate OFA Good.
The positioning is not great, but I've seen much worse. The pelvis is tilted a little, but it looks like the femurs are parallel to each other. I don't think OFA will reject the x-ray.
by jaggirl47 on 18 December 2009 - 00:12
Amysue, I know my boy's positioning is horrible. I wasn't worried because they were not going to OFA. It was just new xrays as he is getting a hip replacement and we needed to see the amount of arthritis he has now. He is 9. The reason I posted the xrays is because the OP's xrays look almost exactly as my boy did when his original xrays were done 7 1/2 years ago and this is what his hips look like now.

by bjarnehaus on 18 December 2009 - 01:12
I do not like responding my opinion on these. It is always a touchy subject, and you will never know what the OFA will do on pre-lims. The right hip looks good in my opinion, but the left hip, does look shallow, and not seated to well in the socket. Hopefully fair pre-lims on hips.

by Prager on 18 December 2009 - 02:12
For my records I also take picture of my dog's hips with camera, but it is important to see the knees. It can make all the difference in the world how the dog is positioned and if the x ray has good exposure and it is developed properly Digital X rays are the best. Down below are REALLY bad hips, but not properly positioned, taken with digital x ray. I do not think that in any positioning it would make a diff.:
The first x ray is from study showing how wonderful digital x rays are> But amazingly the positioning is atrocious.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com


The first x ray is from study showing how wonderful digital x rays are> But amazingly the positioning is atrocious.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com



by Prager on 18 December 2009 - 02:12
In my post way above > I am sorry that I made your eyes bleed. I was unable to find more unplesant combination then red and flurescent blue. Just to make a point.
Prager Hans
Prager Hans
by jaggirl47 on 18 December 2009 - 03:12
Oh, I know it's important to see the knees to insure the dogs hips are in proper alignment or to see how off the alignment is. I also know that someimes when you are focusing on just one area, that's what you take a pic of.
And yes, the second xray of yours is sad to see. Absolutely horrible.
And yes, the second xray of yours is sad to see. Absolutely horrible.
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