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by Nans gsd on 26 November 2009 - 18:11

Sounds like you have a nice boy;  and guess what;  these angles are best seen at birth.  They are not acquired later;  they either have it or they don't. 

I don't like to see the croup too steep as that puts the rear too far under the body;  My german boy has a steep croup and he way outdrives his front.  Interesting that his sire was known for his great shoulder;  however, my boy did not inherit that from him.  Consequently, his gate is not the tireless gate that it should be.  It is OK for what we do and he is now 7 years, but I feel that dogs without the proper layback/rear angles don't have that smooth; flowing, problem free gate.

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by GSDGenetics on 27 November 2009 - 14:11

 Shoulder angle and good USAGE of a well angulated shoulder are one of the weakest structural attiributes in the breed, if not THE weakest structural quality to manage to get and retain in breeding. 

Its very common to see even in top show dogs of any of the major styles within the breed, a dog who has front angulation and smooth front reach equal to rear angulation and drive.  Ideally a dog should open the angle between the humerus and upper arm and smoothly reach forward.

Very few GSDs of ANY bloodline have really good front reach, opening the angle of the shoulder and reaching smoothly forward from the shoulder instead of lifting the front and reaching mostly from the elbow.

The other most commonly seen weakness structurally in the breed (meaning a trait where a dog having ideal or close to ideal quality of that trait and also where even when you manage to get close to ideal, its difficult to perpetuate the level of quality of that trait to the next generation), is the ideal croup and tailset.

 






 


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