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by DenWolf on 10 February 2012 - 21:02
Yes.. that's what I meant by not being a good thing to have happened in Denver...
Denver already has this un-constitutional "breed ban" in that county, and this rather public event didn't do anything positive for those of us trying to get rid of it.
The details are confusing to those reading that don't live here...
The dog fell into a frozen pond in Jefferson county (my county) and possibly IN the city of Lakewood.
There is a leash law in this county.. so the owner gets a fine because, well, there is now all of this wonderful, helicopter video of it..being off leash in a frozen pond!
Then the dog has a bite in another county.. DENVER county...( where the 9News studio is), and, where bully breeds are NOT allowed.. even for a walk..(stupid law).
I suspect the owner could not provide proof on the spot of rabies vaccine to Denver AC.. and that is why the "report" (from which all of the media outlets write their stories from) said that he was un-vaccinated.
What is scary(for me, anyway), is that even though one has PROOF that their animal is current on rabies, it appears DENVER county will "impound" your animal and require the 10 day quarantine in their disgusting shelter, instead of at the home of the owner......
Yes, watch the video in crytal-clear-widescreen-HD.. Kyle should NOT have got on the floor with the dog... she should NOT have been smothering it with dominant petting over top of his head/face/eyes..
The owner had a death grip on his lead/collar.. and I am SURE he was very nervous.. it was a LIVE piece for the morning show... so all of that together, and voila, recipe for disaster.
sigh.
Denver already has this un-constitutional "breed ban" in that county, and this rather public event didn't do anything positive for those of us trying to get rid of it.
The details are confusing to those reading that don't live here...
The dog fell into a frozen pond in Jefferson county (my county) and possibly IN the city of Lakewood.
There is a leash law in this county.. so the owner gets a fine because, well, there is now all of this wonderful, helicopter video of it..being off leash in a frozen pond!
Then the dog has a bite in another county.. DENVER county...( where the 9News studio is), and, where bully breeds are NOT allowed.. even for a walk..(stupid law).
I suspect the owner could not provide proof on the spot of rabies vaccine to Denver AC.. and that is why the "report" (from which all of the media outlets write their stories from) said that he was un-vaccinated.
What is scary(for me, anyway), is that even though one has PROOF that their animal is current on rabies, it appears DENVER county will "impound" your animal and require the 10 day quarantine in their disgusting shelter, instead of at the home of the owner......
Yes, watch the video in crytal-clear-widescreen-HD.. Kyle should NOT have got on the floor with the dog... she should NOT have been smothering it with dominant petting over top of his head/face/eyes..
The owner had a death grip on his lead/collar.. and I am SURE he was very nervous.. it was a LIVE piece for the morning show... so all of that together, and voila, recipe for disaster.
sigh.
by Mindhunt on 10 February 2012 - 22:02
If I can't set the ground rules for interaction with my dog(s) and expect those rules to be respected, then my dog does not go on public "display". I don't take them to public venues as it is since I have had some bad experiences in such environments. The "Working Dog Please Do Not Pet" harness does nothing to discourage people. I have had some bad experiences that thankfully just soured my view on public venues. My friend took her GSD pup to an art fair years ago and had the same harness I do and some person bent over to pet the puppy with my friend telling the woman firmly to not touch her dog, the woman continued to bend over and the pup got excited and jumped up smacking the woman in the nose with the top of her head (how many of us have had that or a near miss happen?). The person fell back and screamed when she saw the blood, unfortunately people started screaming that my friend's dog "attacked" or "savaged" (another of my favorite words) the woman. Thankfully a LEO saw the whole incident including my friend telling the woman twice to not pet her dog. She was sued by the woman for medical bills and "emotional trauma" and even though she won, she still had huge legal fees. Stupid people. If that had happened now a days, I believe her dog would have been taken away or placed on the dangerous dog list.
by DenWolf on 10 February 2012 - 23:02
Holy crap, Mindhunt!
What a nightmare for your friend!
That one goes in the stupid-vault next to the brain-dead lady who sued McDumpster over the hot coffee incident....
We need a new topic...
"SNAPPY ANSWERS to STUPID QUESTIONS" for responsible dog owners...
(Wasn't that a MAD magazine favorite??) :)
What a nightmare for your friend!
That one goes in the stupid-vault next to the brain-dead lady who sued McDumpster over the hot coffee incident....
We need a new topic...
"SNAPPY ANSWERS to STUPID QUESTIONS" for responsible dog owners...
(Wasn't that a MAD magazine favorite??) :)
by ggturner on 10 February 2012 - 23:02
People just don't take the time to think sometimes before they act. I tell people all of the time to approach my dogs calmly with their hand held out (palm down) and wait for the dog to sniff their hand, but never reach out towards the dog.
I teach school and often go to school on Sunday afternoons to catch up on paperwork. When I go I usually take one of my gsds with me. Not long ago I was at school on a Sunday afternoon with one of my female gsds. One of my coworkers showed up and rushed towards my dog saying loudly, "Oh my gosh she's beautiful!" I warned her to slow down, but she rushed right up and began kissing the top of my dog's head! Thankfully, my dog stood still and kept her gaze on me. I let my coworker know that she should never, ever do that to any dog that does not know her because she runs the risk of getting bitten. My coworker said, "I don't care. She's so pretty, I just had to kiss her!"
I teach school and often go to school on Sunday afternoons to catch up on paperwork. When I go I usually take one of my gsds with me. Not long ago I was at school on a Sunday afternoon with one of my female gsds. One of my coworkers showed up and rushed towards my dog saying loudly, "Oh my gosh she's beautiful!" I warned her to slow down, but she rushed right up and began kissing the top of my dog's head! Thankfully, my dog stood still and kept her gaze on me. I let my coworker know that she should never, ever do that to any dog that does not know her because she runs the risk of getting bitten. My coworker said, "I don't care. She's so pretty, I just had to kiss her!"
by EchoEcho on 11 February 2012 - 03:02
I live in Denver and have seen this whole story unfold and it is just infuriating to me!!! Why is it we can't give animals the same respect we give people? Why is it people expect to be able to treat animals however they want to and nothing "bad" happen. Has everyone forgotten that these are animals and you should treat them with respect?
One time I had someone ask to pet my dog (GSD) and I said sure (I knew he would be fine) and the guy proceeded to put his face right next to my dogs face and give him a big bear hug. It was rather shocking to me and my dog reacted like nothing was even happening but still... who does that? The guy then told me about how he had to put his own GSD dog down the week prior and how much he misses his dog. All the while I am thinking "if you have owned this breed you should know better than to do that". This is why I socialize the crap out of my dogs. I feel like if I want to take my dog out of my front door I am going to be responsible for what all the stupid people in the world want to do.
I really think that if anyone asks to pet my dogs I should just keep it to a simple no but, at the same time I hate people thinking that a GSD is a vicious dog that will hunt you down and bite your a$$ the first chance it gets. Well... I guess I like some people thinking that:)
One time I had someone ask to pet my dog (GSD) and I said sure (I knew he would be fine) and the guy proceeded to put his face right next to my dogs face and give him a big bear hug. It was rather shocking to me and my dog reacted like nothing was even happening but still... who does that? The guy then told me about how he had to put his own GSD dog down the week prior and how much he misses his dog. All the while I am thinking "if you have owned this breed you should know better than to do that". This is why I socialize the crap out of my dogs. I feel like if I want to take my dog out of my front door I am going to be responsible for what all the stupid people in the world want to do.
I really think that if anyone asks to pet my dogs I should just keep it to a simple no but, at the same time I hate people thinking that a GSD is a vicious dog that will hunt you down and bite your a$$ the first chance it gets. Well... I guess I like some people thinking that:)
by hexe on 12 February 2012 - 00:02
"I live in Denver and have seen this whole story unfold and it is just infuriating to me!!! Why is it we can't give animals the same respect we give people? "
The trouble is, we don't give people much respect, either--we voyeuristically peer into other people's lives, and are ignorant of other people's personal space, walk around loudly having 'private' conversations on cell phones regardless of how much it might be disturbing to those around us...so it's really not surprising that so many people think they should be able to shove their face and force their affections onto an animal that is unknown to them.
I know that lots of dog folks HATE those 'head collars' like the Gentle Leader, Halti, etc., but I do find them useful if I have my dogs out among the general public (as opposed to being at a dog event that is entirely peopled by other experienced dog folks). The strangers who think the head collar is a muzzle tend to give us wide berth, and the ones who recognize it as a head collar might still try to pounce before I'm able to stop them, but with the head collar I've got control of the dog's head--and to some extent, their mouth, too. I've made it a point now to get any dog I have accustomed to the head collar for that very reason. I'd much rather be able to prevent the offending stranger from rushing my dogs, but since my ability to control those people is somewhat limited (can't Tazer them, for example, much as I might want to) I try for the next best thing: having control over the dog's head.
The trouble is, we don't give people much respect, either--we voyeuristically peer into other people's lives, and are ignorant of other people's personal space, walk around loudly having 'private' conversations on cell phones regardless of how much it might be disturbing to those around us...so it's really not surprising that so many people think they should be able to shove their face and force their affections onto an animal that is unknown to them.
I know that lots of dog folks HATE those 'head collars' like the Gentle Leader, Halti, etc., but I do find them useful if I have my dogs out among the general public (as opposed to being at a dog event that is entirely peopled by other experienced dog folks). The strangers who think the head collar is a muzzle tend to give us wide berth, and the ones who recognize it as a head collar might still try to pounce before I'm able to stop them, but with the head collar I've got control of the dog's head--and to some extent, their mouth, too. I've made it a point now to get any dog I have accustomed to the head collar for that very reason. I'd much rather be able to prevent the offending stranger from rushing my dogs, but since my ability to control those people is somewhat limited (can't Tazer them, for example, much as I might want to) I try for the next best thing: having control over the dog's head.
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