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by Blitzen on 21 January 2012 - 14:01

Here is a link to the latest OFA information on unilateral HD. They now believe that the side most often affected by unilateral HD varies from breed to breed and in the GSD there is no predilection. In at least one breed, the conformation of each hip is influenced by a different set of genes.

IMO this is a very informative article about HD.

 page 18 unilateral HD - http://www.offa.org/pdf/monograph2006web.pdf 

 


by 1GSD1 on 21 January 2012 - 16:01

To those who think they know everything that's ever happened inside their dogs' bodies, I'll share a little story. I got a really nice female pup and brought her everywhere with me- even to work. Every day. She was never  out of my sight for more than a few minutes  if I left my office and left here there or whatever. She was a little monster-type pup, always into stuff and had to be monitored, especially if I wanted to keep my job! LOL   Suddenly, she came up with a very slight limp- almost imperceptible. I assumed a pulled muscle, got her toe caught in crate door, etc. It didn't go away in a week, so I took her to an ortho vet I use. She had MAJOR trauma in both front legs/elbows. Her growth plates had closed in one bone on each side in an attempt to heal from extreme bone bruising. The vet said he sees this most commonly in dogs who are HIT BY CARS.


Perhaps that vet isn't aware that there is a genetic condition that mimics exactly what you are posting and maybe that is what was wrong with your pup. It took a specialist to diagnose and 2 vets didn't know.  I only know of one puppy who had it and had surgery. That is exactly what happened and the growth plates closed and legs were bowing out and it looked like an injury and I am sorry I know that it was not. It was a genetic condition. There is a very real medical term for it but I don't remember it as this was several years ago. I believe the person said it is more prevalent in other breeds.

Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 21 January 2012 - 16:01

I'm sure you're right. This is only a pioneering vet who travels the world patenting orthopedic implants and advances and instructing others as to their proper implementation. laugh  MRIs can show bone bruises, FYI. 

GSDPACK

by GSDPACK on 21 January 2012 - 18:01

I also noticed on the contract that if a puppy comes back with HD and was fed raw food the HD could be caused by it? Who exactly will prove or disprove that the raw diet caused crappy hips! If I find out that a breeder will not give me a full hip warrantee I will question if the particular breeder had puppies coming back with this problem.. that is my way of thinking.




Jenni78

by Jenni78 on 21 January 2012 - 18:01

A lifetime buyback guarantee pretty much eliminates any back and forth arguments regarding what caused what. I have to laugh at some breeders' contracts. 

Who really cares what the contract says if the breeder isn't a person of their word?

by Von Ward Kennels on 22 January 2012 - 04:01

I HAVE SEEN MANY GOOD BREEDERS HAVE THE ONE BAD HIP CLAUSE. I DO NOT DO IT BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY OTHERS DO. STEPHANIE

by Von Ward Kennels on 22 January 2012 - 04:01

ok i DID NOT SEE THE RAW DIET CLAUSE. THAT IS A RED FLAG FOR ME! A RAW DIET IS A GOOD THING, NOT BAD. I WOULD NOT BUT FROM A BREEDER WHO WAS AGAINST A RAW DIET. JMO

by Blitzen on 22 January 2012 - 14:01

Bottom line - all these strings on guarantees on dogs benefits only one of the parties - the seller. Unliateral HD, raw feeding, etc are loop holes generated BY the seller FOR the seller. May as well not have a guarantee at all. There is absolutely no proof whatsoever that unilateral HD is anything but a genetic condition or that raw feeding causes any health issues.

There are plenty of good GSD breeders around who offer guarantees that are fair to both parties. Why even consider a dog from a breeder like this one?

by Betty on 22 January 2012 - 21:01

From 1GSD1"

" there is a genetic condition that mimics exactly what you are posting and maybe that is what was wrong with your pup. It took a specialist to diagnose and 2 vets didn't know.  I only know of one puppy who had it and had surgery. That is exactly what happened and the growth plates closed and legs were bowing out and it looked like an injury and I am sorry I know that it was not. It was a genetic condition. There is a very real medical term for it but I don't remember it as this was several years ago. I believe the person said it is more prevalent in other breeds."


If anyone knows of the term for this I would be real interested in finding out!  Thanks!

THK9

by THK9 on 25 January 2012 - 04:01

Well,Im not sure that I would say that the clauses in Contract are for loopholes that benefit The Breeder as much as I would say that some Breeders are fairly passionate or set in their beliefs. Lol,you only have to talk to a few or be on this forum for a short time to see that. I know some Breeders who dont feed raw because they believe they cant regulate the exact amount of protein..they want to be able to see the breakdown/analysis and I get that. Contract are tough-As a Breeder,its hard to put all that you want in them...to be fair to your Client and yet Fair to youself and not have it be 10 pages long. Mine gets bigger every year :) I think in this case,that is truely Julies beliefs and Shes intitled to them. 





 


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