A dog making a judgement call

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by GSDguy08 on 09 December 2010 - 13:12

von harasymtzuk , what are your Huskies doing that make them so stubborn? Honestly I've found Huskies easy to work with. I have three, have had a couple of others in the past, and I've worked with a lot of Huskies for other people.

by zdog on 09 December 2010 - 13:12

you guys think i'm new to this database? and it's little games? There's a reason I stay away for the most part. For a while it was overrun with some less than spectacular characters.

my posts are never directed at one person, unless I explicitly say so. but as a general rule, wait till you have a picture of people created thru the interent, then wait till you actually meet them and their dogs. It doesn't take long to figure out who just reads boards and talks about what dogs are and how they should be all day, and who actually trains them.

by Keith Grossman on 09 December 2010 - 16:12

"I think obedience training puts a big stop to a dog's freedom to decide and act on its own and that's why a dog owner might get killed by an attacker without his or her dog taking any action especially if owner loses ability to give orders to the dog during the attack that is assuming it is a PP trained one."

If the presence of the dog doesn't deter the attacker, you need a gun.

by Keith Grossman on 09 December 2010 - 17:12

"With that training comes great responsibility and a certain (great) amount of liability."

This is probably the most important statement in this thread.

by LadyFrost on 09 December 2010 - 17:12

I was reluctant to post here because I don’t think my male dog is a good role model, he was actually a big pain in the butt, he is a push over and was constantly beat up by my female…he would plop down and roll over in front of people, constantly making me trip, a bit hyper…etc..however after what happened last year he became a “keeper”…..Dozer is an oversize male who is currently 110, he came from a shelter at the age of 7 months…

Last year I had a outpatient surgery to remove my gall bladder and was on pain meds 1st day by second day I refused to be loopy so I stayed off meds…

Sometime during the 2nd day my neighbor decided to drop by and bring me my mail that was left in his mail box, as he came down he received a cheery snarl and a bark from my female which at recall came inside as I stepped outside..Dozer was circling around my feet as we were talking, at one point he plopped down and rolled over for a belly rub…in the mid sentence I had a bad, painful cramp that radiated from my stomach to my back and diaphragm… I was holding my breath and staring to bend forward…in that 1st second of my painful attack before I even moved the floppy 2 year old puppy was standing on his hind legs, similar to bark and hold except he was advancing face to face with my neighbor growling, barking spitting foam …all teeth showing, fur standing up… I had never seen that dog do that…as soon as he saw my discomfort he went into attack mode and was backing my neighbor quickly out of the yard..I have no doubt that if my neighbor even stretched a hand out he was going to lose it right there…thank god it was maybe 12-15 feet from the street where my dog stopped right at the border line of our property and came back running to me with his head down and tail wagging yet still looking back to make sure no one approached…this was not a sole incident…

I had a yellow book man stop by to drop the book off and I walked out told my male to sit and talked to the guy and tried to explain that I don’t want the book, he became rude and said he is not carrying bloody things on his back for no reason, as soon as I felt a bit intimidated and uncomfortable, actually it was more like a cold chill went down my back…Dozer was all teeth…

I think the judgment call comes from owner/dog connection…the in tune relationship that is build between us…it’s like when you are feeling like sh*t and your dog who is always hyper calmly lays er head on your lap and licks inside of your palm, or when you are freezing cold and they lean against you while they could be running in the open field and when you tell them it’s ok go play they comply but still check on you 3 times more often than normal…

by sable59 on 09 December 2010 - 17:12

MY GSD SHEBBA TURNED 12 LAST MONTH. SHE HAS HAD NO FORMAL TRAINING NONE!!!4 YEARS AGO I BOUGHT A NEW DITCH WITCH FOR MY IRRIAGATIO BUISNESS. JIM MY BEST FRIEND CAME OVER TO LOOK AND BROUGHT SCOTT. SCOTT IS 6'6" TALL.SHEBBA WAS WATCHING AS THEY GOT OUT OF THE TRUCK.SCOTT CAME OVER AND THROWED HIS ARM AROUND MY NECK AND SHEBBA LEFT SLOBBER ACROSS HIS CHEEK.SCARED THE MORTAL HELL OUT OF ALL THREE OF US .SHE MADE THE CALL HERSELF.SHE HAD NEVER MET SCOTT AND THOUGHT HE WAS ATTACTING ME .BY THE WAY SHEBBA WILL,CRAWL USING HAND SIGNALS,STAY ON COMMAND,LAY WITH HAND SIG. OR COMMAND.DO ALL THE BASICS O.B. SHE HAS LEARNED THIS HERSELF AND DID IT AT AN EARLY AGE.SHE IS AN AMAZING FRIEND AND I LOVE HER AS MY OWN CHILD.YOU CAN'T MAKE HER BITE THE SLEEVE OR GET AGGIATED BY SOMEONE SHE KNOWS.I LIKE HER LIKE THAT.

by Ace952 on 09 December 2010 - 18:12

Great responses in this thread, thank you.

I do believe that there has to be a good connection between you and the dog and there also has to be a lot of training involved as well to condintion the dog to different types of scenarios.

For those that actively train their dogs , how do you go about training this? What have you learned from training, good and bad?

by von Harasymtzuk on 09 December 2010 - 21:12

GSDGuy, really? I've only ever owned my 2 and while they are obedient it seems they need competition, for example, my male was trained in English and was really slow in complying but he watched me train my Shepherds in German, both Huskies did actually and then he got this "well I can do that too attitude" so now we just use German for all of our dogs and he will listen better because he wants attention, he's such a ham.....my male is difficult because he is too darn intelligent sometimes I see him actually thinking about whether or not he wants to comply, or I'll say platz and he will give me this look like "Are you serious? YOU Platz.....okay, fine, I'll do it, but just this once and only if you give me something for it." My female is stubborn because my Mother spoils her, she gives her treats for looking pretty and lets her sit 2 inches from her plate while she eats. I can't work with her because she's Mommy's princess. I spoil the heck out of my dogs but 2'' from the plate is where I draw the line.

I wonder if a Siberian could do schutzhund, lol. I tried getting mine to bite the tug and he looked at me like I was nuts.

by GSDguy08 on 09 December 2010 - 21:12

von Haraymtzuk I'll send you a pm later about the Huskies and some advice........but as for Schutzhund... one of the Husky litters I had, the female out of the litter was feisty. She had very high prey drive and would chase a bite tug all day long, latch on with a full grip and tug as hard as she could. I could still do this with her when she was 8 months old, I had wondered if I transitioned her to bigger tugs, pillows, and eventually sleeves if she would have done it. Do to my lung problems Icouldn't keep up with her. She needed literally a minimal of 5 miles each day on a walk followed by training and work on top of that. The others in the litter chased tugs and rags as well, but not with her intensity.

by GSDguy08 on 09 December 2010 - 21:12

and Von Haraymtzuk, not trying to throw the thread off topic, I'll shoot you a pm later on tonight , but here are a couple of pictures from a while back when she was still here. She's the Husky closest to the camera. The blue Pit Bull is someone elses. The black and white male on the right is the dad. The one in the middle is brother to Kiara, and the dog on the left is the mom of those two. The first one I did have treats, the second picture I did not. Sorry if the pictures are small I don't want to hog the thread.

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