to the breeders out there what about this situation - Page 3

Very well stated Vommysticalhaus...
and I couldn't agree with you more on the points you make.

There are no ACCIDENTAL breedings in the vocabulary of a responsible dog owner. 

If by some stroke of lightening one does occur, especially as did above,  where you state the owner of this young female knew fully that a tie had occurred at the time, then he should have done the responsible thing and gotten her right to the vet to have a shot given her, which would prevent conception, aong with letting the breeder know what had just occurred, if for no other reason than to be honest and to keep their breeder informed, and to let her know that the responsible and more beneficial route was followed through on by them, in the interest of the young female. 

That would have been far better for everyone concerned, the dog would not have been affected by having been forced to carry an "unwanted and unplanned" litter, and thus, if pups had not resulted from a one time, accidental tie, then the question of whether this early breeding and being forced to carry a pregnancy caused a problem with the hips not passing would not have come into play as pertains to the contract.   And, They would be within their rights asking for a replacement to be made.  

I agree Hexe...

A guarantee is an offer of good faith;  In Part, for full registration ours states that if the dog's ears don't stand, teeth don't develope according to the SV standard, and/or that in males both testicles don't descend as we anticipate them to do, as well as stating that the dog's hips shall pass with OFA Fair minimum or SV equivalent A3 or better, then a replacement pup will be awarded, provided requirements set forth in the contract to the buyer are also performed according to the contract and are in compliance.  This would include the clause that states the dog is not to bred before age 24 months, and if it is, the contract is void...and it also stipulates that the dog must be xrayed at 12-15 months, which will give us a very good indication as to the genetic nature of the hips prior to having been put into active and sometimes heavy training...for hips, we offer the client the option of sending films to the SV, which will rate the dog's hips and elbows after 12 months of age.  Often the dog is not fully mature by this age, so when that is the case, we do require that the dog be rexrayed at 24-26 months.   This is written in the contract so again...no surprises for the client as to what is expected.

If using OFA, the dog must be xrayed again for certification between 24-26 months of age.

We're not saying that we guarantee the dog will develope without a possibility of these problems occurring...we're saying that if the dog does not develope according to the above stipulations, as we believe it should, then a replacement is due the buyer if he has upheld his end of the contract, for equal value of his purchase price paid for the dog.

Very nice litter. Pups seem to have nice drives.  : )

Yes bhall very nice arguement? haha i wonder who the co owner of this dog was anyway??? hmmm
co-owner and breeder of this dog with bad hips.

Have fun with your negative comments and bashing to take the focus off your own issues. checking out.won't be back this is a mute point and noone cares what you two think. all this started in who'skennels. bye bye.
by the way, yes the pedigree was deleted because it does me or noone else any good on their because she is a cull dog. that is in no need of a pedigree. She has also been deleted off the web site. So talk about that for a little while.  DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA .