Feeding Pork - Page 3

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To be honest any properly farmed domestic animal should not cause any problems to dogs when fed raw as these should be wormed etc Wild rabbit on the other hand................ I have fed raw pork to my dogs for over 10 years with no health problems whatsoever.

I have always cooked pork before feeding it to my dogs as well.  The only danger then is looks like these when they're waiting for it to cool:

I agree Keith  wholeheartidly  , but I have never cooked port for the dogs... I worm with panacur every 8 months or so and no worry..
I have the healthiest dogs in east Texas and have never fed store bought processed green tripe or patties from a food company for supplementing...

Most anything you buy from a PET STORE has been fed fast and with chemicals in it or on it..Any thing with red dye, or says   FLAVOURED...has sprays on it to enhance the flavor and or/ preservatives...No way you can put a live specimen of MEAT in a package and hang it in a STORE and tell me it is  NATURAL\\\

The steering wheel on your vehicle is made of NATURAL  ingredient but you cannot eat it!!!!!You bathtub is made of a NATURAL ingredient but you cannot eat it , either.......

THe word NATURAL does not mean fit for CONSUMPTION at all times..it is a FALSE  marketing plume....

THere is a chance in feeding anything RAW but that is why we have freezing and proper handling and GOD gave us all wisdom and brains to know the RIGHT way to handle and feed any meat or veggi...

THere is also a very dangerous FUNGI that can kill a dog in a couple of hours if that dog eats fruit, like peaches, pears, or a piece of wood in your pasture or around  your home in your own yard if the said products have been laying on ground long enough.    Cows even get it   but not often as they eat most anything very fast if you have a herd...

That is a FOOD POISONING      called    Clostridium Perfringens   TYPE  D    A very dear friend had his black shepherd bleed to death as it attacks the intestinal. sleen , liver immediately and no stopping the bleeding...TYPE D is the one that this dog had...the other is usually treatable and is the one that can lay hidden in bacteria in our foods...

Not cooking food for humans to consume  and  reheating improperly is the cause in Humans...not dogs or cows.

His was a rare case but had lots of fruit trees  in his pasture and lots of old wood  ligning his flower beds that this dog occasionally pulled out and ate on....wood harbors this bacteria also if it is rotten enough and has been in the area of this bacteria.............and goats in a field next to his pasture. A lot of dogs eat poop from cows, goats , chickens etc and get a huge fair share of nasty bacteria , but their tracts are most usually apt to digest things we humans cannot...Bears watching any german shepherd as they are very well known for INVESTIGATING>>>things on ground or in the most remote place we would not think..



YR

Checked back to this thread this morning and was surprised to see so many more
responses than before.  Thanks everyone that answered.

Sorry for the abruptness of my message, but the bugs of this database have finally
invaded my computer and all the screens are messed up.  There is a narrow strip
down the middle of my screen, and this text box is covered on the right side by it,
so I have to hit enter and not type all the way to the end or I can't see what I'm typing.

Aside from that, this has been a very interesting conversation, and I appreciate the
opinions.

Crys

You are most welcome...read what Slamdunc had to say about avitar pics changing...lol


on NONACONA thread about " does anyone know...??"  We were not crazy after all....

I changed mine today ..will see how long it takes to post.
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YR

Not a lot of dog food kibble is pork-based.  Well, there is one I know of by Fromm but it's not super popular.  Pork is considered harder to digest.  There is a list of most easily digested proteins, with eggs and chicken being the first, then lamb, beef, pork is at the bottom.  It may also be fatty, I'm not sure.  I feed pork to my dogs rarely, maybe once every few months if I get a deal, with no ill result.

IMO pork can be disgusting.  Maybe not if it's naturally raised, but most pork isn't.  The concern is ANTIBIOTICS, 70% of all antibiotics in the USA go to livestock.  I used to work on a farm (I was a 4-H kid :-) and they would feed antibiotic feed to the healthy pigs for no reason- common practice.  They live in such dirty conditions and so crowded they get sick very easily, ear infections or respiratory, so we would just feed them antibiotic treated food routinely.  Going to the hog farm was one of the reasons I am now a vegetarian of 14 years, it disgusted me.  And it was not even a large-scale farm.  You know if you've ever driven past a hog farm what it smells like from a mile away, and all that waste is full of toxins and going right into the groundwater, it's just very nasty.  Antibiotic resistant water has been found from hog farms.  Hogs can carry things like MRSA, that are resistant to antibiotics, antibiotic resistance is a public health crisis, people die from this flesh-eating bacteria, there is no drug that can kill them.  Using anti-bacterial soap, with triclosan, is shown to cause resistance and stronger bacterias as well.  It seems like vets want to give antibiotics for everything-- I had a client whose dog got bit in the dog park, two tiny little puncture wounds that were nothing, yet they got antibiotics?  Another problem is people not finishing their course of antibiotics, what happens is you kill off the first weak strains but leave the stronger ones to multiply.  Ok, I'm on a tangent...

The other old stigma of pork is trichinosis, a worm, but freezing pork less than 6" thick for 20 days is said to kill it.  It also occurs in wild game meats.

I do not know how common it is IN the meat, I mean how many people purposely eat raw or undercooked pork?  There is no way to say, because most people are educated that pork is not a meat you should eat very rare.  Chicken is another-- have you ever heard someone want their chicken rare or pink on the inside, no, because they are educated about salmonella.

There was a study done in LA, where 45% of pork in retail stores tested positive for MRSA, http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18978079

Hi
all I can say is back in the 80s when I worked in a animal feed factory where we made our own meats all my dogs ate boiled pigs heads whole and all you would find on the yard was a few eyes and the odd ear as they were a little tough.
Some gave there dogs sheeps heads but I was always under the influence they carrid a lot of worms in sheep heads.
My dogs never picked up any bugs and always looked fit and well and happy.

Yvonne

Yes, Doberdoodle...I know what you mean about the smell of hogs...Hog farms turn your stomach, but so do truck loads of them going down the highway.  Cattle trucks don't smell good, but hog trucks gag me.

Pigs are not my favorite animals, and their cleanliness is one of the main reasons I will not eat pork.  It hasn't been enough to make me go vegetarian, but I am very careful where I get my meat from. I don't buy most of my other meats from large producers, as I don't want all the hormones and antibiotics that are used on animals regularly in large farms.  We use wild game most of the time, frozen before use.  Occasionally some locally raised chicken and beef, and if pork is brought into our house (hubby and kids eat it), then it's usually meat from a pig we raised ourselves.

The digestibility issue is one I had heard before, but had forgotten.  Thank you everyone. 

Crys