GSD IMPROVEMENT PLAN (GSDIP) UK-REPORT - Page 3

Well that's it for now from me. Now its YOUR TURN, please ADD YOUR IDEA's to your own messages below. LETS STOP TALKING AND START DOING !!!!

I will personally pledge a donation of £20 towards the updating of the BC DATABASE in order for it to fulfil all the suggested criteria above. How much of a donation will you pledge?
Best Regards
Sue b

Hi Sue
I have read your post and in COMPLETE agreement, I would be more than happy to pledge £20 towards the BC DATABASE.
And hope there are more like minded breeders who would do the same, after all it is only the cost of ONE entry to a champ show.

Regard
Bernard (Brenberry GSD)

paulie:

            griffiths may have only been caught thro a stud dog that sired many puppies and a couple of other false litters,but those of us that dont have our heads in the sand or our eyes blinkered would wonder if that was all-or, well you can guess the rest.

 Sue, I agree 

"WE CAN DO IT OURSELVES"
We do NOT need to breakaway from the KC
We can have our dogs "accredited"
We can have our litters "accredited"
"Accredited" through Health screening & breed survey
"Accredited" with "The GSD Breed Council"
We can develop & maintain our own "accredited" system
"ACCREDITED GSD"

I PLEDGE A MINIMUM OF £20

I read Sue B article and it made interesting reading and, further, it introduced enough details to stimulate discussion.

If we consider Sue’s point that the main focus should be on the “quality of each individual litter” then at what point would the pups be assessed for quality? If at a young age, bearing in mind that many breeders like the surplus animals to go at a young age, then what would be the criteria to be regarded as a “quality litter” as opposed to “quality puppies in the litter” and, how would the puppies that were not quality be regarded? After all, some puppies develop later than others.

The point that a breeder must be a member of a GSD Club affiliated to the BC may not be acceptable. When I was active the only club that I belonged to was the SV. That came about because I was not interested in the politics in Clubs at that time together with the general apathy, which still exists today.

Under items 1 and 2 some clarification is needed. Is a dog graded “fit for breeding” the same as a dog “suitable for breeding”? Also, “fit for purpose” needs some explaining. I am quite sure that Reinhard Meyer would remind us that we are involved with a “WORKING BREED” and with this in mind what would be the criteria to fulfill this? For example, strength of character would need to be a very high priority together with working ability, therefore, would more surveyors need to be serious working people and new surveyors trained in this aspect of assessment. We know that many dogs are so well trained that they conceal their weakness and it takes an experienced surveyor to detect what is going on in order to give a fair assessment. Also, at what age would this assessment take place?

If the KC, are prepared to approve any scheme, then they would want to include every one with an interest in our breed. We know that the working people that breed do not always give as much attention to construction as the show people. With this in mind, many of these dogs will not pass survey but how will surveyors deal with this? How will their litters be assessed as to quality and fit for purpose?

I am in full agreement with accrediting dogs on the grounds of health and welfare, it's a must.   I just feel that the above comments bring out the grey areas.

This is not intended to be a negative post, or, a criticism of Sue’s thoughts but they are issues that will need to be addressed.

Mackenzie

hi sue i agree with you, that it is somewhere to start and i also pledge £20 for the cause david is right we dont need the KC but what we do need is for the BC to come out and tell us what they propose this would be via the member clubs of course as we would need all to agree any steps made if anything is going to work
jim h

In reply to Mackenzie,
The BC could make a start by having Accredited Sire's and Dam's that have proof that they have completed a breed survey and have been health screened and DNA  and also show their titles and qualifications.