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Mystere
Your point on some Scum Nuts etc getting the scores needed to go forewards to represent the USA in the WUSV, If this is the case, why then if these Scum Nuts are known to the organisations running these trials for the USA, are even allowed to enter the prelimenary competitions affiliated to the USA team in the first place with a chance of representing there country in the WUSV
It is somewhat unfair to allow them to compete with there dogs in a trial to do with selection then discard them for being as you say a Scum nut, certainly when they get the scores needed
Steve

Mysterious wrote

That is not quite accurate. Dan Cox is definate, because

 

NOW she says its not definate because there is a committee

she just didn't understand the new rules and won't say she was wrong

your sounding like a politican Mysterious

Steve,

In some instances, the "questionable" conduct did not arise until after the event.  In that case, the Committee will (and in the past has) review the facts and circumstances and make a determination.  This from the USA declaration section:

The USA Office shall notify a candidate by email if the

candidate does not meet the necessary requirements, and the

notification shall contain the reasons for the decision. The

candidate may appeal this decision to the World Championship

Committee.

Prerequisites

Candidates who qualify to represent the United Schutzhund

Clubs of America in the 2009 WUSV World Championship or

2009 FCI IPO World Championship must demonstrate the

following:

1. The best consistent performance in USA-sanctioned trials.

2. Conduct that exemplifies good sportsmanship and selfdiscipline.

3. A strong desire to attend the WUSV World Championship

or FCI IPO World Championship and represent the United

Schutzhund Clubs of America in international competition."



 

"Eligibility Review

Ignoring the sideline stupidity from Pat Relton, back to my original question.  And I do mean this with the utmost respect to anyone that walks onto any trial field.

Why does it seem harder to get on the USA half of the WUSV team than the WDA half?

USA:   ONE out of 52 (USA nat'ls), plus at least 270 at another national event.
            or ONE out of 30 (USA WDC), plus at least 270 at another national event.

WDA:  TWO out of 21, no need to qualify at another national event?

What am I missing?  Don't they all end up on the same world team?  Why don't all the world team contenders go to the WDA Championships?  Is there a certain loyalty or prestige to USA?  It seems to me that the quality has been deeper in the USA competitions.  Just my opinion.

Steve:

                   The people being spoke about as "Not desirable to represent USA" Would file suit in court if USA said that because of there past reputation they could not represent the USA on the team although they may be dregs or poor business people with terrible reputations or just plain trouble makers it,s all fear of litigation.

At some point in time USA will make a stand and draw a line in the sand that is uncrossable(hope).
 
I hope at some point in time politics and money are put aside for the sake of the breed and the representation of the breed world wide(when pigs fly) but i won,t hold my breath.

  

Ya gotta love this new found love between WDA and USCA.


Traditionally USCA was the equivalent of a varsity team compared to the WDA junior varsity team. USCA attracted the best teams and had the most competitive trials. So USCA became the “cool” team to be on and they consistently placed higher than the WDA at the WUSV.

I think for some people it’s not just about getting on the team, it is also about how they got on the team.

 

By going to UScA's events you have the chance to make 2 world teams. The WUSV team AND the FCI world team.

The WDA's trial is NOT a qualifier for the FCI world team as WDA is NOT a member of AWDF.


  Frank

As was mentioned, so far we have 2 competitors, according to the rules: Dan and Chuck and Mike and Erri.

Dan won in Austin last October and had a score above or at 270 this time. Automatic qualifier.

Mike won this time and had a score above or at 270 in October. Automatic qualifier, as well. He pulled the dog from the upcoming WDA trial cause he's already on the team and no need to compete again.

So, according to the rules they have a spot automatically on the team based on those numbers.

However, that is not 100% guaranteed.

Now, USA office has to validate that and to allow them to compete for USA.

But for all means and purposes - they are on the team and I wish them best of luck. So far we have a good team capable of placing high, and everytime this topic comes up I have to say I was most impressed watching Erri from a  few feet last year in Austin. Damn good dog, no question about it, and excellent handler/trainer to complement him.

We wait for the rest of the team to join from the upcoming WDA trial. Some very strong competitors there including the last year's WUSV vice champion Ace of Nike and 6th placed Karlo with my club member Larry Vinzant. Lots of other great dogs entered as well.

List of competitors here: http://www.vomhausmiller.com/WDA/Competitors.htm

And now... we wait.