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by triodegirl on 24 April 2009 - 19:04

But what you're doing wouldn't be right unless you have permission from the original breeder. It's a matter of ethics. Which to some people, doesn't seem to matter these days.

by heathernstaton on 24 April 2009 - 19:04

There's no way of getting in touch with the original breeder to begin with, so I guess I'm unethical?


by KathyMo on 24 April 2009 - 20:04

If the breeder of your girl sold her with the expectation that she wouldn't be bred, then breeding her *anyway* would be unethical.  Perhaps there was a very good reason he didn't want her to be bred. Perhaps there was some genetic issue that he was aware of but didn't share with her original buyer. Perhaps she was from an accidental breeding of a brother and sister. Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.  We'll never know for sure what his rationale was without asking him.

I'm going to tell you a story about a dog I sold a long time ago.  She was definitely not breeding material and I stupidly sold her without spaying her.  She was bought by a celebrity who had a dog trainer on retainer.  This woman called me to tell me she was going to breed the dog to her other dog.  This would have created a whole litter of GSDxHusky crosses.  I was horrified and told her that I would have never sold her the dog if I'd realized she'd considered this an option.

I then called her dog trainer and asked him for his help.  He called her and asked what she was thinking.  Her response of "all my friends want a pup from her" was met with "If you've got 10 friends who are willing to take a GSD/Husky cross then we are going to go to the shelters and adopt out 10 GSD/Huskys and give them to your friends".

The good news is that she spayed the dog as soon as she was out of heat.

Even if you have enough homes for these pups, why would you want to go against what her breeder had intended?
If it's money, then I'd look for another way to bring in a little extra cash, cause if your girl ends up needing a C-section or some specialized care during the pregnancy you will be deep in the financial hole.
 


animules

by animules on 24 April 2009 - 20:04

"...so I guess I'm unethical?"

Yup, knowing what you know, if you breed her you are.

by heathernstaton on 24 April 2009 - 20:04

So be it.

Mystere

by Mystere on 24 April 2009 - 23:04

Heathenstatton,

I understand that you have people who want puppies from this bitch.  When I was a kid, my gsd bitch also always had a slew of people waiting for her puppies.  Most of them were my father's co-workers at the  post office, but several were also cops who had seen the bitch in action.    We never, ever had trouble homing those puppies, even when the sire was "unknown."   She wasn't registered, either.  She was a pound puppy.  Only one litter was even planned.    That was decades ago.  But, I do understand what you are saying.  


That being said.....

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why an ethical, conscientious breeder should NEVER sell puppies that they do not want bred on anything BUT an enforceable  spay/neuter agreement.   There is no way to know WHY the breeder did not want the bitch bred.   Could it just possibly be that she/he  knew there was a von Willebrands issue?  Or, full-blown hemophiliia, subject to bloat, family history of epilepsy?     We don't know and in all probability never will.

Unless the "CKC" you want to register her with is the CANADIAN KENNEL CLUB, you can forget about getting that bitch registered with AKC.   In fact, if you have no means of contacting the breeder (who chose not to register the litter), can you really register her anyway? 

I did see the word "sell."

Kinolog

by Kinolog on 25 April 2009 - 02:04

If the female is able to be registered at all, and the guy who bought her from the breeder then sold her to you has her paperwork, the AKC can let you know. The problem is that if he does not want to voluntarily transfer the registration, or hand over the application, the AKC has no power to force him. That was what I was told but it could be wrong. Contact them anyway. You could make it a general question if you don't want to give them specifics. If she isn't eligible for AKC registrations then you would be doing the BREED a disservice by breeding her. Just buy another female that has an unlimited registration. If you plan on selling the puppies, it would be well worth your while.

Look into what rules the AKC has for registering a dog with a CKS registration. There is a process for getting foreign dogs AKC registered.

JLB82

by JLB82 on 25 April 2009 - 20:04


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