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by Kelly M Shaw on 24 March 2009 - 22:03

Once the stipulations of the contract are taken care of then the limited would be transfered over to a full. If people don't like it then they don't have to get a puppy from me, which is fine with me. I personally have done this for a long time without any problems, and people don't seem to mind it either. The people that do I don't sell to. If your tooo eager to get a full registration instead of waiting until the stipulations in my contract are taken care of then that just tell's me that you would be the type of person that would breed at a young age, etc, etc. I could be wrong, but the people that I've run into have wanted to do just that, breed, breed, breed,$$$$, before certifications are met. JMHO
Kel

by LynOD on 25 March 2009 - 00:03

You can run your business anyway you want. I am just saying I don't think it is right and I certainly wouldn't buy a pup with one. I have no intentions of ever breeding a dog I own. An example of why I want a full registration is that to show in Canada you need one to get a number to show under. They don't give numbers to limited registration dogs. ( at least this used to be the case I haven't shown there in a number of years) If I am spending beaucoup bucks on a GSD I expect a full registration. If you are selling pet quality dogs then perhaps I can see a limted lregistration being given. If you are selling to someone who intends to work the dog in any venue and is getting a top quality pup then there should not be a limited registration. But like I said you can sell your pups anyway you want that is your business. I just wont do business with you.

by Bob McKown on 25 March 2009 - 00:03

Some of us don,t consider the show ring "work"

by LynOD on 25 March 2009 - 00:03

Excuse me Bob I was speaking of competition obedience and agility or isn't that work either!! Oh sorry it isn't schutzhund so the 4-5 days a week I spend training wouldn't be considered work ASSSSSSS!

by VonIsengard on 25 March 2009 - 03:03

I have sold longcoats and puppies with other disqualifying faults on limited. You want to breed a faulted dog, go elsewhere. If you don't want limited papers, go elsewhere. I will in the future sell all my pups on limited and put in writing the requirements to have it lifted. Full disclosure is my policy. I'm with Kelly Shaw, she runs it just like I do. It must be a Kelly thing

LynOD- in the US where I am, limited registration has 0 bearing whatsoever on a dogs registration number.

I find it ironic to see GSD people attacking other GSD people for trying to help protect the breed. I think its a hell of a lot better than crappy breeders who tell buyers all the time, "Oh yeah, he/she will be a GREAT breeding dog!"

by LynOD on 25 March 2009 - 10:03

Like I said you hve a right to sell your dogs anyway you want. I personally just woul dn't but one that way. I am all for protecting the breed I just don't think that his will help. Just my opinion not one you have to like.

I am aware that you do not need a full registration to compete in various venues in the US I was speaking of Canada.

by Kelly M Shaw on 25 March 2009 - 13:03

Thanks Bob, and KC for at least understanding why I do what I do

LynOD said "If you are selling pet quality dogs then perhaps I can see a limted registration being given"

I don't sell pet qualtiy dog's, Sorry. If people only want to put a limited on their so called pet quality dog's, or long coats, etc, etc, that is their business and that is their choice, but ALL my pups get put on a Limited no matter what. Now if an active family came and wanted a dog for their FAMILY, not for breeding, then I still wouldn't call my dog's pet quality dog's, and this FAMILY would most likely not do the stipulations that are in my contract, and that is their business. Then that dog will remain on a limited and the FAMILY would still be happy with it. OH, just to let you know I have sold dog's to Canada

If you know anything about limited then you should also know that it does cost $$ for the breeder to remove the limited and change it to a full if desired. I'm not charging the new owner's of this said dog to change the limited to a full that is my responsibility, and I do it with pride. Yes this is the way I run my business (if you want to call it that, I don't breed often) and like I've said before I've done this for years without a problem, and will continue to do so.

The reason's I sell on a limited: To STOP byb's in their tracks. QUOTE from me:
This is just a way to stop any good talking byb's or anyone else from breeding before they have any health checks done, etc on the dog. People can talk a good talk and unfortunately there are a lot of them out there. The limited just protects everyone all the way around, IMHO
You can never know anyone by just talking to them on the phone or thru email. Some people will say everything you want to hear just to get that said puppy in their grasp, and this is a HUGE reason I've been selling my puppies on a limited registration (for a LONG time) UNTIL the stipulations are met on my contract. To be honest I don't ask for much on my contract either. To each their own and if you don't want to buy any of my puppies on a limited that is your choice, then don't buy or look, but I can say with good spirits that I have NEVER had a problem changing the limited to a full registration thru AKC if the people do what is asked of my contract.
UGH, I hope I'm done venting,and explaining, hehe!!!
Kel
www.boeselagerkennel.com

by Bob McKown on 25 March 2009 - 13:03

I undestand completly, I find it a good practice my self,

Oh and just to mention I did PM Lyn and appoligized for the "Bimbo" comment

by Two Moons on 25 March 2009 - 13:03

Have you ever wondered if someone wouldn't breed one dog to another and then use a third dogs papers?

by Kelly M Shaw on 25 March 2009 - 13:03

Thanks Bob

and how good of you to apologize to Lyn!!!! I think it was the heat of the moment thing :-)
Kel

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