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by RONNIERUNCO on 13 March 2009 - 18:03

4PACK TMI. TMI. TMI.

4pack

by 4pack on 13 March 2009 - 18:03

LOL Ronnie Yeast grows everywhere. My dog doesn't have a va jj but he still gets yeasty.

by Shandra on 13 March 2009 - 19:03

I have just gone thru this with Tulla altho not to the extent you have. she had huge oozing pus filld sores. her feet were nothing but infected yeast factories... and they still bleed at the slightest touch.... She has all but grown every bit of her hair back.

I was bathing her every other day with Aloedine for the first 2 weeks, Then every 3rd or 4th day for a week with an apple cider vinegar rinse ( diluted 1/2 water 1/2 vinegar). I then switched to a good Pinetar shampoo and bathe her in that ( to stop the dry skin) for 2 weeks. Now she gets bathed once or twice a week with Emu Oil shampoo bathed that frequently because she still has a bit of odor and living indoors at the shop I cant have that. She was on ivermectin daily with antibiotics and Benedryl. I gave her Gentle digest, ester C and Vit E as well as Dermacaps. About the second week i Discovered an antifungal/antibacterial spray at tractor supply made by Mane and Tail. I sprayed it on the oozing areas and especially her feet. Once I started using that is when I saw the fastest improvement, you might try that. I think the biggest thing in killing the yeast was attacking it internally as well as externally. She still gets the ACV rinse and will continue to as long as there is a chance of the yeast redeveloping. She also gets ACV in her water.
Good luck :) I hope this helps.

Therese


NWilz

by NWilz on 13 March 2009 - 19:03

Moons,
My dogs problems do come from his mother's side, several offspring of my dog's mother and offspring of her littermates have bad skin and/or ears...and his uncle (littermate to his mother) is right now being promoted as a champion stud...it makes me beyond sick.  (I edited that to get profanity out).  The owners of the uncle KNOW that there are problems and they are all about making a dollar off stud fees.  Apollo's dad has awesome skin, and this thick rich coat that feels like you just want to grab him and cuddle up on a cold day....you will never know how I wish my dog had got his Dad's genes on skin and ears.  But I'll stop my rant on breeders who breed when they know there are problems before the people who are breeding Apollo's uncle sue me or something and get back on the point.  I am very sorry for you for losing your dog and for all the dog went through. The good side is, honestly, I am suffering more than my dog right now.  I can't stand for my dogs to be sick in any way.  If my dog has a sore I want it healed, like yesterday  I've owned GSDs the most of my life (never had another breed), and in ten years of owning GSDs as an adult, I've just got to a point where my dog can throw up and I don't panic and go to the vet for labs. I had one mistake, when I was overworked and not home enough to even own a dog where a dog got really sick in my care and since I've been even worse about going to the vet over every little thing.  But I'm finally learning not to panic every time my dog sneezes and as I want to breed eventually or at least own a few more GSDs (I have three dogs and acreage so there's room and time for more), educated people are working with me, teaching me not to panic, and to treat common things at home.  My mom, who is plain spoken jumped all over me the last time I panicked over something minor (so minor I don't even remember what it was) and spent $200 at the vet and walked away with some Interceptor, I had the products needed at home and knew how to use them.  I have to learn to trust myself.  I'm either going to have to be a millionaire, not own as many dogs as I want, or learn not to panic. The switch to raw has actually been a good thing, it really knocked a dent in the sores that covered him (now he has only a very few sores, I just want him free of sores) and he'd had some stomach problems and it really cut down his stomach issues and I'd highly recommend trying it to anyone who hasn't.  Some people seem to have wonderful results, some not so wonderful, so I guess it depends on the dog.  His coat (or what was left of it) when I got him was horrible and he's actually pretty soft now and a lot of hair has grown back.  We're not sure how many of the sores he came with were from fleas as he was infested with huge adult fleas and my vet said he had a lot of flea dust or flea dirt or something on him (I'm not really familiar with fleas, big Frontline fan).  He lives a pretty normal life, I blend his supplements up with some raw meat and he loves that.  He LOVES the raw feeding.  He's on Comfortis with Frontline spray as back up since we think he has a flea allergy, obviously on HW and worm prevention.  I'd just feel better if he never even slightly smelled of yeast again.  He's not itchy.  When pollen is high and he's outside for a while he does get itchy, so I just give him a bath if we're out playing for a while ...he's very compliant with baths so it's no biggie, I throw an old comforter down for him to dry off on and he has a rather good time.  He even goes to Schutzhund club now and then and has a blast.  He's a very, very happy dog.  I just want the very best for him and want to make sure I am as informed as possible.  I also want to do all I can to keep his problems in the are

NWilz

by NWilz on 13 March 2009 - 19:03

 his problems in the area of severity that they are in now, and not more severe.  Right now, he could live out a relatively normal life as long as things don't get dramatically worse.  But if I continue carrying him to the overpriced local vet and pumping him with antibiotics and steroids when he doesn't really need it, am I going to ultimately make a manageable situation into a life threatening situation?  Every time I want to run to the vet I have to think of that, because my local vet LOVES to prescribe medicine, loves to give shots, and you won't leave for less than $200.  I've honestly taken my female to my real vet who's 4 hours from here and he's prescribed no medicine, and he's been reluctant about giving my male anything after we got him out of danger, saying that if we keep pumping him with antibiotics, a time may come when he really needs them and he might be resistant, we used steroids very cautiously with him as the vet I normally use (4 hours away) actually cares about my dog, not how much money he can make off of a sucker...so that's what kind of opened my eyes, totally makes sense.  I stopped carrying him to the local vet every time things aren't perfect and brought my panic attacks about my dogs here (at least I am honest), sorry everyone....that way, my dog doesn't get drugs he or she doesn't need and I've actually learned a lot from some really wise people. Rambling aside, when I first got the dog, he was suffering but his will to live was SO tremendous, truthfully, many dogs would have died in his condition, he barely had the energy to walk, he didn't even wag his tail that was covered in sores for about the first week.  His care was intense with pills and 2 a day ear washes and twice a week baths (he'd never been in a bathtub until he met me so that first bath was interesting) and he was 110% complaint and actually grateful.  He was emaciated or "neglected" as my vet said.  I honestly didn't know whether he would live, he had the fight in him, but I didn't know if he'd pull through.  If he was still suffering to that degree or if he hadn't started improving, putting on weight, getting more active, minor sores healing, then...it's even hard for me to type this....I would have had to put him down to prevent suffering.  Thank goodness, we are not at that point. Again, Moons, I am so sorry for your loss.  They can quickly become our best friend and when they are suffering, it takes a big person to do what's right and end their suffering. -Nichole

NWilz

by NWilz on 13 March 2009 - 19:03

Therese, sounds like you have been more in the position I was when I first got my dog.  A little trick on the paws...every time she goes outside, use antibacterial baby wipes.  My male had mild issues with that and it helped to immediately clean his paws after being outside, luckily we just developed this land last year, so a lot of grass and pollen producers are absent and there's a lot of dirt so that makes life easier.  We're discussing doing pea gravel or something for the dogs' favorite spots in the yard to cut down on pollen. I am really pi$$ed.  I was at Tractor Supply yesterday, it's about 30 miles from here...I had the Mane and Tail in my cart and then put it back thinking it wouldn't work....so I guess I get to go back. I use ACV on my boy a lot and it works and I credit it with getting his ears in good shape.  With getting him to take it, it's been disaster, if he even smells it in his water (I mean like one teaspoon to a gallon) he won't touch it...tried mixing it in his food, same deal.  But someone informed me there are ACV pills so I am on a search for them. Thanks for the help and good luck to you and your girl, if you learn anything new, feel free to email or pm me and if I learn anything new, I'll pass it on to you. Thank you, Nichole   Oh yeah, by the way, I saw AZO Yeast pills at WalMart, they are homeopathic I think.  Has anyone tried those or know if they are canine friendly?

4pack

by 4pack on 13 March 2009 - 20:03

http://www.nzymes.com/Testimonials/nani_j__hair_loss_chewing_herself_sore_joints_open_sores_odor_smell_german_shepherd.htm

Is this something like what your dog was suffering? Horrific. I'd freak out if that happened to one of mine too. We just have some itching, flaky skin, elephant skin on the belly, eye gunk and that nasty yeast smell sometimes on the dogs. I'm hoping a good dose of these probiotics will get to the bottom of it and with good food and no new shots, the dogs will get to the right skin ph and good bacteria levels to stay healthy for life.

I have inflamation issues of my own, arthritis and muscle pain and I'm too young for that shit. I'm gonna give this stuff a shot and see how we all feel when it runs out.

by WiscTiger on 13 March 2009 - 22:03

I have had really good sucesss with a line of products called Zymox.

I have used the ear ointment, the topical spray and medicated rinse.

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Val

katjo74

by katjo74 on 13 March 2009 - 23:03

Some antibiotics lose their potency because the bacteria develops resistance to such eventually. So if you have to use antibiotics for him from time to time, watch for the effectiveness. If it doesn't seem to help, maybe another family of biotics would be more effective.

I'm not sure on immune system testing, but you could ask your vet and see if that's your underlying culprit considering the issues he's having. Sounds immune system suppressed for some reason if his pancreatic/insulin levels are norm.
I really hope you can get it resolved for the BOTH of you. Bless you for putting forth such love and effort for him.


Uber Land

by Uber Land on 14 March 2009 - 01:03

I guess I should consider myself lucky to only experience a small hotspot here and there on my dogs.  and to treat that, I simply shave the hair around the sore, and give it a good cleaning with warm water and soap and my guys are good to go.  I've never really had to deal with extreme allergies in my dogs.





 


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