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by Videx on 12 March 2009 - 11:03
New health screening schemes require some years to expand their use within our breed to a significant level, it takes years even with the best publicity and promotion. There has to be a notice period for its introduction into a Breed Survey, and during this introduction period, breeders must be encouraged to use the new health screening test on their dogs through publicity and with the knowledge that it will become part of the Breed Survey at a known future date. This is the most reasonable and effective way to introduce any new health screening tests into our Breed Survey.
Those who want compulsory health screening tests, and I am one of them, must NOT use our Breed Survey for this purpose, they should understand that it is essential, in the first instance, for the Kennel Club to introduce compulsory health screening through whatever method they determine, of course we can make suggestions and put all kinds of pressure on them, but we should never put the cart before the horse.
For those who look at most things in a very simplistic manner, I will advise you that this whole subject is far from simple. The GSD Breed Survey could very easily be destabilised and ignored if it altered or amended in an unreasonable way. One mistake can undo what has been achieved to date. Our Breed Survey is in its infancy and needs far more breeders to use it than currently is the case. If simplistic people within our breed, and they are the majority, push and make unreasonable changes, then don't be surprised if it leads to the demise of the breed survey very quickly. If that happens, its resurrection will be virtually impossible. So make your choices!
Remember the Breed Survey is VOLUNTARY, and is always likely to be in the United Kingdom. The best that could be done, commencing immediately, is a huge promotional campaign for our GSD Breed Survey, with an aim to dramatically increase the number of GSD being surveyed throughout the UK, particularly those intended for breeding. We want the number of GSD breeders wanting their GSD breed surveyed substantially increased.
Surely this should be our priority.
by Sue B on 12 March 2009 - 12:03
Regards
Sue b
by myfanwy on 12 March 2009 - 15:03
Regarding elbow scoring requirment being made compulsery for breed surveys.
I am in complete agreement.
When i first started breeding gsd's my knowledge was not as good as it should have been, and i did not breed survey my dogs, since improving my knowledge i have had all my dogs breed surveyed, But if i had to elbow score as well as hip score my dogs to have them breed surveyed i would not have gone through with the breed survey.
But to put you in the picture i have a lovely pup at the moment which i will breed survey as is now my normal practice and am looking into the cost of scoreing hips and ellbows together ( i would have done this even without thinking of breed surveying my pup).
But like you i feel most new and some older breeders would not carryout a breed survey if they had to go to the expence of hip and elbow scoring
some breeders still do not even hip score !!!
by BESS on 12 March 2009 - 16:03
I feel that the recent NEW Breed Survey Forms which I created have caused the above. It was MY MISTAKE that the new forms read:-
ELBOW SCORE (optional until 01/01/10).
I misunderstanding on my part, please feel free to chastise me in whatever fashion you deem appropriate. The correct form, which is available on the Breed Council Website reads:
ELBOW SCORE (optional)
DNA was also another point I misakenly added 01/10/10 to.
As far as I am aware NO date has been agreed upon to bring in both or either of the above.
The forms on my site and the GSD Club of Wales site are incorrect.
ELBOW SCORING & DNA are OPTIONAL
Sorry everyone hope I haven't caused too much trouble.
Sharon Bowen
by myfanwy on 12 March 2009 - 17:03
Thankyou for posting the above,
It is good of you to admit your error so openly and apoligise, a lot of people would not have.
by Langhaar on 12 March 2009 - 17:03
the loss of dogs that have not been elbow scored to the Breed Survey can surely only be of benefit, it weeds out those dogs and their breeders who do not think that health tests are that important.
by Videx on 12 March 2009 - 17:03
by Videx on 12 March 2009 - 17:03
by jaymesie51 on 12 March 2009 - 19:03
just my opinion what if the BC set a date from the birth of a puppy say 01/01/10 that every thing born after that date if submitted for survey must be hip and elbowed scored now that would give breeders nearly 3 years to get elbows tested
just a thought
jim h
by Videx on 12 March 2009 - 20:03
Great care needs to be exercised with this, NOBODY needs to breed survey their dogs, and the easier option may become to simply MISS the British Sieger Show, then BANG, both the Breed Survey and the British Sieger Show go down the tubes. This could very easily become a reality, and we need to be aware of this, and make every effort to strengthen support for both the Breed Survey and the British Sieger Show (event)
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