TIMES online - Judges at CRUFTS etc - Page 3

Maybe things are getting lost in translation but Videx do you not breed and show the dogs that you seem to be so against?

Looking at you webpage I see only show dogs..
Am I incorrect ?

To SueB  Please do not use my login name "Carebear"  in your reply - this thread has nothing to do with me.

I think if you read it she was refering to Liz AK Pascobear, I doubt if she knew there was a user with the same name that you have.

sorry carebear this is sueb's nickname for me ( a joke between us) not any reference to you!

Liz

Now lets take David, Johns and Paulies senario one step further still.... the decision is made to dismiss a dog from the ring on the premis that in the judges opinion the dog is unhealthy / unfit for purpose, it transpires this dog has excellent Hip and Elbow scores along with working qualifications, the judge then goes on to award the CC and/or Res CC to a dog/s with a Bad Hip Score or with no Hip Score, how much more of a ludicrous situation for the whole dog show scene could the KC potentially be creating than this? 

So what next? Equip judges with thermometers to take dogs temperatures? Make it a requirement for all judges to pass the veterinary exams, preferably to have xray eyes or at least have an xray machine available at the ringside? For unless the dog is actually physically limping badly, staggering around in a daze, having a fit,  throwing up or frothing at the mouth or see's it having an unhealthy looking poop how the heck IS a judge supposed to assess if a dog is or is not healthy and fit for purpose? Of course I'm being facetious but is what the KC now expect judges to do any less of a joke?  

And if a dog was dismissed on such grounds what will happen to the Judge or Judges (plural) who qualified this dog for entry at Crufts in the first place, will they be reprimanded for promoting an unhealthy, unfit for purpose dog in the first place?
Finally, as the KC are asking judges to do their job by weeding out unhealthy, unfit for purpose dogs, when such one is found and dismissed from the ring is the KC still going to be irresponsible enough to keep registering the progeny from this unhealthy, unfit for purpose specimen? Or will they just carry on with their usual Double Standard senerio's by saying the dog will be dismissed from being exhibited in our KC registered show rings but we the KC will still welcome with open arms the registrations for all the progeny of this unhealthy, unfit for purpose sire / dam.

HYPOCRACY IN FULL SWING !!

Regards

Sue b

 

Yes Care Bear is my nickname for Pacosbear because she cares. Wildmoor is correct, I didnt know there was someone with an I.D of Carebear on this forum but since the name is actually patented to an animated creation called Care Bear perhaps you will understand why it is quite logical for me to use it. Sorry if I mislead anyone but I will not be told I cannot use the affectionate nickname I have for someone just because you registered here under someone elses patented name. I could more understand if in the use of Care Bear I had been nasty but I was being nice so what's your problem? 

See link for the real Care Bear experience....        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDT5aH_EXlA   

Regards
Sue b

We thought there maybe some shit from the KC and media, we have an excellent (and very sound) dog that the judge would like, but we have entered with our feet, not going to see the crap beaten out of our breed with arseholes trying to get the best video of any dog moving away, and at any angle and showing it to the world as a representative of the dogs in the GB, etc, etc. We feel very sorry for the judge at this show, and hope he is not brow beaten by the KC into making some very bad and regretable decisions, glad and sorry to say whichever way this goes we will not be there to see it.
Spike

You are the one with the problem I only asked you not to use the name in your threads that's all I did not "tell you" to do anything - why are you being an arse about it??

Oh My God - there are some very 'real' and serious issues regarding the GSD breed and 'carebear' has got offended over his/her user being used in a favourable light!.  Do you have a problem if someone duplicates your christian(first) name or maybe has the same surname - do you ask them not to use it??  Do you know what there are more important things in life and our breed to worry about - if it offends you carebear, then the answers simple, don't look!

All the best

Carebear Liz ( maybe sueb you should add the Liz to the end, as clearly you manage to easily offend by addressing me in a nice way!!)

PS:  Hope that's cleared up and we can get back to the post in hand! - do you have any relevant contributions to that one carebear?

Carebear Liz,  Anybody is more than welcome to use my name in a favourable light and if they used it to address someone in a nice way I'd be ecstatic !! But I suppose it takes all sorts to make a world.

Getting back to the serious issues .. On another thread Mackenzie made some very valid points regarding Caroline Kisko's comment of the Majority / Minority. Considering the German Shepherd Dog has a WUSV (World Union) Standard, perhaps we should just point out to the KC that if only they would cease to be so insular and accept the WUSV standard for the GSD in its entirety then THEY (the KC) would'nt find themselves having to keep altering standards to suit the next wave of Jemima Harrisons, as they would be standing alone but would have the weight of the World standing with them. As I see it it is the KC that is in the Minority because with the WUSV Standard Majority Rules!!  

Regards
Sue b