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by Sam1427 on 22 February 2009 - 04:02
Good thread! Yep, every dog's a little different and it's up to the handler, trainer, decoy to figure out what works for which dog.
by realcold on 22 February 2009 - 05:02
Go GARD. This is when the fun for helpers begins. Playing with a young dogs drives to make him stronger is fulfilling. Too bad others cannot see his eyes when you get the clear results in the moment. Gard keep him a little unsettled for a while to teach him drive is where its at. Go guys..
by Jyl on 22 February 2009 - 06:02
GARD
It was fun working dogs today. I got to see first hand what you meant in the first statement you made on here about this male. By watching him work it is very obvious that he is still very young in the head, BUT seemed very stable to me. He worked very well with what you did today. It was nice to see him bring the pillow back to you and want to "play". I was going to tell you about his slight bouncing back and forth thing he did, but had to run to work. I would have the handler stand in a "bladed stance" and use her body as the anchor and not her arms. I noticed that when this dog came out at you she would jerk him slightly on the leash since he was pulling her off balance. I think if there was more constant pressure on the leash it would help him greatly...just a suggestion. Hope this helps....
It was fun working dogs today. I got to see first hand what you meant in the first statement you made on here about this male. By watching him work it is very obvious that he is still very young in the head, BUT seemed very stable to me. He worked very well with what you did today. It was nice to see him bring the pillow back to you and want to "play". I was going to tell you about his slight bouncing back and forth thing he did, but had to run to work. I would have the handler stand in a "bladed stance" and use her body as the anchor and not her arms. I noticed that when this dog came out at you she would jerk him slightly on the leash since he was pulling her off balance. I think if there was more constant pressure on the leash it would help him greatly...just a suggestion. Hope this helps....
by Rugers Guru on 22 February 2009 - 20:02
I had a great time training, I love meeting new people. Jyl, please come out again, I would love to get some more information about Ruger's lines and watch your guys work! Also, for the info about using my body more than my arms.... GARD tells me that all the time. I just need to condition myself to JUST DO IT!! Thanks guys for all the info and GARD for starting this thread.
by animules on 22 February 2009 - 21:02
Rugers Guru, I pretty much "sit" on my line. I hold it in front with my right hand, my left hand holds the line farther behind and very low. This helps me with my center of balance and helps me keep a more even line tension. Much easier once you start!
by Rugers Guru on 22 February 2009 - 21:02
animules, I have seen it done, but for some reason it throws me off balance even more. I think it is because I am not a seasoned handler and GARD does the "crazy dance" to build prey, and we do circles, and back and forth and more back and forth.... I have a problem keeping my back foot planted with all of my weight on it. I am going to practice with my tow hitch today [In the rain] and see if I can find a comfortable balanced position.
He is going to say this is an excuse, and to just do it, and I will.
I will show him! LOL
He is going to say this is an excuse, and to just do it, and I will.
I will show him! LOL
by Jyl on 22 February 2009 - 21:02
Rugers Guru
Thanks. It was great fun. I loved it. I am going to come out regularly. As for your standing, it takes time..soon you will be a natural. I have been doing this since early 1996...but I am still learning and always will be. Would you please email me the pictures you took.
Thanks Jyl
dukenheim@comcast.net
Thanks. It was great fun. I loved it. I am going to come out regularly. As for your standing, it takes time..soon you will be a natural. I have been doing this since early 1996...but I am still learning and always will be. Would you please email me the pictures you took.
Thanks Jyl
dukenheim@comcast.net
by Jeff Oehlsen on 22 February 2009 - 21:02
Quote: What is happening is when you get about 4-5 feet from the dog you start to see some stress. He will back up ever so slightly. He never goes into any type of avoidance but you can see the stress.
Uhhhh, that is avoidance. Might start there. Avoidance isn't necessarily an all out retreat. Nor does it mean the dog is crap, either. I would have to see it to be of any help.
Uhhhh, that is avoidance. Might start there. Avoidance isn't necessarily an all out retreat. Nor does it mean the dog is crap, either. I would have to see it to be of any help.
by Get A Real Dog on 22 February 2009 - 21:02
Thanks JYL. It was nice meeting you and your dogs. Yesterday was the most fun I have had in awhile. We had a few Pit Bulls from 12 weeks (I really love working puppies) to 4 years with different levels of training. Two GSD's with a good deal of training, Ruger's Guru who is coming along nicely, and my one lonely Malinios. I am really going to have to change that.....lol
Animules,
Ruger's Guru can't do the "sit on the lead" bit because I often have her dragging the dog into the bite or in and out. I guess you can call it "the crazy dance" cuz I am kind of all over the place but the dogs like it. I enjoy building and channeling drives. I wish I was better at building grip, but I am pretty good at building drive.
We all have our streanths and weaknesses.
Our group is growing and we are getting more dogs out. That makes me happy. Our core group is very motivated and eager to learn.
Remember everyone is welcome, there is no charge other than an occational donation for equipment. I don't do this for money. I do it for the love of the sport.
Guru is right, if you come out there is NO Whining and NO EXCUSES.................
Animules,
Ruger's Guru can't do the "sit on the lead" bit because I often have her dragging the dog into the bite or in and out. I guess you can call it "the crazy dance" cuz I am kind of all over the place but the dogs like it. I enjoy building and channeling drives. I wish I was better at building grip, but I am pretty good at building drive.
We all have our streanths and weaknesses.
Our group is growing and we are getting more dogs out. That makes me happy. Our core group is very motivated and eager to learn.
Remember everyone is welcome, there is no charge other than an occational donation for equipment. I don't do this for money. I do it for the love of the sport.
Guru is right, if you come out there is NO Whining and NO EXCUSES.................
by Jyl on 22 February 2009 - 22:02
Get A Real Dog
Thanks it was alot of fun for me too. You said this..."Thanks JYL. It was nice meeting you and your dogs. Yesterday was the most fun I have had in awhile. We had a few Pit Bulls from 12 weeks (I really love working puppies) to 4 years with different levels of training. Two GSD's with a good deal of training, Ruger's Guru who is coming along nicely, and my one lonely Malinios. I am really going to have to change that.....lol"......so your coming over to our(GSD) side! I knew you would come to your senses...hehe
Thanks it was alot of fun for me too. You said this..."Thanks JYL. It was nice meeting you and your dogs. Yesterday was the most fun I have had in awhile. We had a few Pit Bulls from 12 weeks (I really love working puppies) to 4 years with different levels of training. Two GSD's with a good deal of training, Ruger's Guru who is coming along nicely, and my one lonely Malinios. I am really going to have to change that.....lol"......so your coming over to our(GSD) side! I knew you would come to your senses...hehe
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