What is wrong with White GSDs ? - Page 3

 That article on the White shepherd sounds completely bullshit. Suddenly it is hard to see soldiers in the desert ???? Who is supposed to believe this shit ???

Have you ever been in the N Afriacn desert ? It not all a parking lot covered with sand. Lots of rocks and hills and bushes and stuff. The Germans were the masters of camoflage.
Reminds me of when I came to the wrong side of the country, the first winter people asked me if I had ever seen snow, being from California lol.

Exactly.  And had the dogs NOT been white, they probably would have blended in more and maybe not been seen at all instead of giving the game away.  Instead of a trained dog quietly pointing out enemies to the Germans, they were too conspicuous and taught the Allies darn quick that a white dog meant Germans were there.  LOL - like a homing beacon.  Bad plan. 

But as far as people's pets are concerned nowadays, I believe the same thing can be said of the white GSD that one says of a horse:  no good horse is a bad color. 

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 Quote: Have you ever been in the N Afriacn desert ? It not all a parking lot covered with sand. Lots of rocks and hills and bushes and stuff. The Germans were the masters of camoflage. 

Yes, and they trained the dog to stop drop and roll when shot at. RIIIIIIIIIght. I think someone was the master of bullshit, as snipers don't need a dog or a machine gun. I think it is some made up shit.

As far as masters of camoflage ??? Snipers, sure, machine gunners ?? No. LOL

in germany the white Shepherd is called the canadien shepherd.


Years and years ago any white pups where culled from the litters in Germany but then again  they only allowed 6 pups per litter and if no surragant mother could be found  remainig pups also where culled . I was told by a old GSD breeder in germany  that the white Shepherd    took his spotlight   first in Cananda where the breeders did not cull then it  moved into USA . Today in Germany there are breeders breeding white Shepherds . He also said  they are not to be called German Shepherds < smile >



I once met a stunning all white male   in a AKC obedience class  I joined when I first moved to the states . This dog was stunning   all black nose and lips  big and masculine , awesome coat    all around   candy for the eye  :))  Most whites loose their solid black nose and lips when mature  .

I frown upon any GSD's beeing bred just for the color  . Each of us can have a favorite color   :)  GSD's had never been meant to breed by color    the main reason was always a functional dog .

Today we have breeders breeding for white, blue, liver and  also the mixed color such as the Panda   in my opinion  these dogs look  like a different color GSD but are not what the founder of the breed wanted them to be. It is hard enough without being color blind etc  to produce a good number of serviceable dogs  and I am not talking about  sport only .

There is always a exception to the rule  such as white  blue liver  panda   as service dogs or  lets say Schutzhund dogs  but   their % rate is so low that we do only have an individual .Such dogs are bred  for color only  period  not for true GSD character

Would I kill a pup  due to being born  white  NO WAY  !!   I would however  look very close to the parents and  chances are both  would be removed from my breeding program .  In all my years of breed warden seing many litters   I must say the most white marks on pups I encountered where pups bred through conformation lines . Perhaps  this is due to the intense line / inbreeding to  achieve  a favorite structure .  One just has to view a breed show  dogs are all  of the same pattern saddle back with rich tan or red markings  :) 

Pia

by the way Cate   your dogs are beautiful  and  look very happy !!

 

Pia

Thanks Pia -

  I did want to correct one thing though.  In Germany...and the rest of the FCI member nations, the White Shepherd is known as the Berger Blanc Suisse...or White Swiss Shepherd Dog.

  It was one known as the American-Canadian White Shepherd because it was lines in the USA and Canada (Von Finn, Hoofprint, and Regalwise most notably) that created the breed overseas...before it was recognized by switzerland, and subsequently by the FCI.

  This is an example of a pedigree from an imported BBS -- my female :


They're no longer considered the GSD overseas -- and in general have done very well as a breed.  Many compete in sport, many work in service and SAR, and I have seen some work as Police K9s on patrol.  And while the same line is drawn between the show and working lines, they all share the same structure.

~Cate

My concern with white GSDs is that because they are disqualified in the standard, there are few reputable and responsible breeders. Most of them that I've seen or heard of ("I had a white shepherd when I was a kid") are basic backyard bred dogs with no health checks or other certifications on the parents.

I think they can be such nice dogs--I'd like to see their registry flourish here in the U.S. But is the gene pool large enough for it to flourish without breeding it back into the regular GSD bloodlines?