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by Brian on 31 October 2008 - 18:10
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by dsv on 31 October 2008 - 18:10
Dutch boy, it is plainly obvious you have a problem with Q-Man, if that is this case which i think it is, you need to sort that out with Q-Man and not spread s**t on a public forum. Secondly i see that Q-Man hasnt titled his dogs, but why the heck would that make Q-Man a back yard breeder ? Ive done a bit of research on Q-Mans dogs, both dogs are imports from Germany from reputable people, and he will have paid good money for them, im very sure of it. So when somebody goes and puts their hand in their pocket and spends a considerable amount of money to own such dogs, then whether they title them or not is entirely down to their choice. Now the price $800.00, now you try and find a puppy with such pedigree for that amount.. id be amazed if you can, from IMPORTED parents. So instead of pulling this person down start looking past the end of your nose and talk your BS somewhere else.
by Dutch Boy on 31 October 2008 - 18:10
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by melba on 31 October 2008 - 18:10
BTW, snajper69, I love your avatar!!! That's the kind of mood I'm in today. Love it.
Melissa
by dsv on 31 October 2008 - 18:10
In my view a back yard breeder is someone who gets two run of the mill dogs, disregards their pedigrees or hipscores, sticks them together and hopes for the best. I feel some thought has gone into Q-Mans breeding.

by melba on 31 October 2008 - 18:10
Like I said, training is not as important as the drives it possess and will pass down to it's offspring. Health, Temp., Drives,. That isn't necessarily the dogs fault you know. Lol. I wasn't there, don't know, but have been told stories where the handler wants a tough dog and when he gets his dog he's way in over head. Doesn't want to wimp out because he got what he asked for. Departments say they want tough dogs, but they don't. Not really. I know very few guys who like the challange of a really tough dog. They mostly work in Maine or Connecticut. If the dog is tough, you just have to be careful and try and find a female who compliments him. Would I breed to a tough do? Yes. Would I be very very very careful? Yes.
Melissa
by Dutch Boy on 31 October 2008 - 18:10
DSV: I have no previous issue with Q-man. Your logic is flawed. Hope you don't think that just because someone says that the parents are IMPORTED that means quality. It doesn't. Not even reputable breeders can guarentee how a dog will turn out. SO if $800 of your hard earned cash is worth a gamble on a pup from dogs that aren't being worked but may or maybe not quality that's up to you. It's your cash.
Backyard breeder? This is the 2nd breeding to a bitch that's is getting worked. Not , not doing Sch. not worked period. By the way you see any hip score on the bitch??

by snajper69 on 31 October 2008 - 19:10
LoL thats the kind of mood I been lately :) it fits me perfectly.
And Dutch boy if he was talking so much about bettering the breed, and now not fallowing through on his own words, than yeah he would be in my eyes shity breeder.
Bettering a breed lol I hate when breeders use this sentence. The breed was fine, breeders are the one that totaly F**ked it up lol.
I am glad that I found the dog that I wanted, and yeah sometimes she pisses me off :) and yeah sometimes I know I can be little bit over my head, but I love it :) this is my perfect dog. That is why it is so important to do your hemowork, not every GSD is for everybody, this is what I love abou this breed there is so much diversification with in that it has to offer something for everyone. :) Understand it, love it, respect it, and use it so it will fit all your needs.
by dsv on 31 October 2008 - 19:10
Dutch boy, i understand that IMPORT does not = Quality, but i the kennels that these two dogs have been bought from i know quite well, and ive never seen poor quality of dogs come from their kennel. I do not wish to discuss it further but reading your previous posts it seems its not the first time youve digged at Q-Man. Happy training.
by Dutch Boy on 31 October 2008 - 19:10
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