This dog comes even closer to what Tina had in mind (at least I think so) To me he resembles a robust dog with a lot of stamina, gentle enough for family setting, yet with expression that he means business if necessary. Sure not your dog for top sport competition (he would smash the helper...lol), yet a great all-rounder. Thats what I like to strive for.

V Dux von der Schockengrube

Did you notice the distinctive coloring on my late pup, Sunsilver? His ears were yellow on the inside, and total black on the outside. I have not seen this masking feature anymore.

well said 4pack. 

most people who say they are intentionally breeding for pet quality are trying to rationalize breeding shitters and  are using this term in an attempt to assuage their guilt feelings - or to just sell mo pups and make mo money.