more USCA whitewash - Page 3

>>>>the public display of an electric training device during a sanctioned USA event; and, by violating these rules<<<
 

It was a blatant rules violation.  That's all, and yet...that's arrogant.  We don't want the general public watching us use e-collars for one thing...public ignorance can bring about public outcry from stupid John Q Public who doesn't understand dog training.

So....what if this guy decides to use a pinch collar in a trial instead of a fur saver?  Most of us use pinch collars.  But it's a rule violation to use one in a trial.  

The rest of us can't get away with using an ecollar to warm up our dog before a trial in full public view, but Burgos probably has polictical connections.

It should not be so difficult to back up the rules of our own organization.  Veronica

I meant that Burgos DOES have political connections, so people look the other way.

I need coffee, I haven't had any today.  Veronica

<<<I beleive he was found guilty of not providing adequate care to a dog he was boarding>>>

6 yr old overweight Rottweiler with possible HD??? I wonder if there was even a necropsy done on the dog to see the Actual cause of the dog being paralyized.

Anyway that has nothing to do with UScA.

<<<<<the public display of an electric training device during a sanctioned USA event>>>

It was used during PRACTICE time when the handlers were allowed to use the collar. The real issue is whether Rick used the collar in a way that was appropriate for the witnesses.... not a rule.

Training collars including e-collars were allowed to be used during PRACTICE time in the past. The rules has since been changed...after the fact.

Uwe

I think the key words are "highly prejudicial to the interests of USA" .... I don't know wether to cry or to laugh.

I'm not sure how many people are speaking from personal experience with Mr. Burgos or not.  I do not wish to gossip or speculate, but from my personal experience having seen Mr. Burgos work dogs and hear him talk about working dogs, he is someone that I do not ever want to be around again.  There is no doubt in my mind that the issue is not the e-collar, but how it was used. 

"not providing adequate care"

If an animal suffers or dies while is a person's care, and they are convicted in a court of law (criminal not civil) I think it's reasonable to define this as abuse, when you read the mission statement of the USCA, you  would think the organization would make every attempt to expell anyone convicted in criminal court of improper treatment of an animal? Isn't this a dog club?

Back to the USA rules,  is it permissible to use a training aid on the grounds of the trial during the event?  I don't think they changed the rules after this incident. But then I don't have Uwe's magic glasses.

Ecollars when used in skilled hands by trainers sensitive to the dog's every signal, even the blink of an eye, are a very useful and humane training tool.  At very low levels they actually act as a stimulus to get the dog to respond more quickly and with more intensity.  It is not because they are shocked into submission.  Just like the use of voice.  If a dog is given a command in a normal voice and trained to respond in a particular way, he will usually respond.  But when YELLED at may show reluctance and respond inappropriately. 

If any of you have had to have physical therapy for an injury, often electric stimulus is applied to regenerate the nerves and muscles.  I have had this done and it actually tickles and feels good.  This is also electric stimulus just like the ecollar delivers.  Actually, the therapist I went to gave me the controller and told me to use the level that was comfortable for me as it is possible with that tool as well to crank it up till a patient jumps out of their skin.

I have use a Tens unit on me to provide electrical stimulation to the nerves. Yes, the patient may adjust the levels of intensity. No, it doesn't hurt.

When used correctly with dogs, the e-collar can reinforce clear-headed behavior and drive-containment. It is not intended as a weapon for correction.

<<<<<Back to the USA rules,  is it permissible to use a training aid on the grounds of the trial during the event? >>>

If your one of the good ole boys then yes. To have 3 judges watch on of the good ole boys frying a dog with the e-collar while the dog is screaming just prior to reporting to the Judge and do nothing, then I guess it is permissable....If your the right person.

Uwe