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by tigermouse on 18 March 2008 - 00:03
he is huge! he makes my other gsd's look tiny i think 85lbs sounds gr8 we have tried different foods with him but he just wont eat them ......and as for raw meat forget it that is the biggest insult you could give him i have honestly never known a dog to refuse tripe b4
by gsdlvr2 on 18 March 2008 - 00:03
from the picture he does look a bit tall but, I think cut him back to a weight of 38 kg. You may have to switch foods, 50% carbs seems high. Increase the protein, decrease the carbs,~ increase the fiber. You could try 125 gms of food for two months and if it doesn't slim him then cut him back to 100 gms of food for another two months.

by Rezkat5 on 18 March 2008 - 00:03
Also know, that unless a dog is sick, they generally will not starve themselves. In other words, going a day or two without food will not hurt him until he's hungry enough to eat what you offer him. LOL
by Blitzen on 18 March 2008 - 01:03
Substitute green beans for a portion of his kibble. They contain fiber, are filling and low in calories. I really don't think he would suffer much from missing a meal now and then so I'm not sure I'd get too worried when he doesn't eat
by Aqua on 18 March 2008 - 01:03
We've had to manage an overweight rescue and have had good results.
We chose a 'lite' kibble for weight management of which the primary ingredient was brown rice and the protein source was lamb. We fed 1/2 the recommended amount and for bulk we added canned green beans, canned unsweetened pumpkin, apples, lettuce, cooked cabbage and other low carbohydrate vegetables. To increase his protein load we added cooked egg whites (the stuff that comes in a carton) and low fat yogurt. We also fed a powdered vitamin/mineral supplement (Vertex) to maintain those nutrients which he didn't get from the kibble.
To stimulate his metabolism I walked him 2 miles each day and, when the weather improved, I biked with him up to 10 miles twice a week.
Jake lost 5 pounds in the first 6 weeks. After that, it was 2 pounds a month but his body shape improved drastically due to the increase in muscle tone. It took about 4 months for him to reach the target weight we had set. He's 14 now and very healthy.

by Rezkat5 on 18 March 2008 - 01:03
LOL, glad I'm not the only one in the green bean camp over here. :)

by tigermouse on 18 March 2008 - 15:03
i have taken rezkat5's advice and would you belive it he noticed his dinner wasnt as big as usual an got grumpy lets hope this works
its so embarising when you are a breeder and trainer to be seen walking great lump of dog down the street;)
ps he asked me to express his opinion on this new diet......
thanks all xx
tigermouse.
by Blitzen on 18 March 2008 - 15:03
I take it he doesn't like green beans ?

by tigermouse on 18 March 2008 - 16:03
he just spits them out!!! and looks at me like im from another planet
same with raw meat we tried to give him the BARF diet and after 10 days my vet reccomended we give up!!
i think he is the only dog on the planet that would starve to death than eat something he dosent like!!!
but we still adore him
by Aqua on 18 March 2008 - 16:03
In reference to that picture which, by the way, is great!, please tell him there's ever more where that came from. He doesn't have to like it but if he wants to eat, he'll have to eat it. Our Jake was none too happy with the reduced rations but figured out very soon that green beans and a handful of kibble is still more filling than rabbit turds and grass roots.
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