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FionaDunne,   

 Wasn't the bullying involved in the teen's suicide actually done by the MOTHER of one for the kid's acquantances?  It was not just about teens with hormone-impaired brains--an adult was directly involved.   I agree- the MySpace and FacePage sites are the locus and soul of the problem the Kentucky rep is trying to address. 

Perhaps someone knows: is he a state representative, meaning he only intends for this proposal to affect Kentucky (misguided), or a US representative, meaning he is proposing a federal law?

He is a State Representative.

Sorry  Miss Dunn

I did not start the post with 'You People' and the way i put it is the way of the English Language from my country .

You are looking into something which is not there. had i started with the words 'You people' then yes you have a right to take offence but i did not,

read another post of mine it will tell you there what i think of people looking down on others,

And just for information i too am only 5.4 tall and not a big fellow by any means, But too me size means nothing, its what you know which counts most

As for the Internet and Children i quite agree It can be a dangerous place, but look at some of the posts and language used by some here, that too will have a negative effect on a young child and as far as i am concerned no young child should view these websites, but of course we know they do

Steve

No worries, Steve.  Sorry I misread the "tone".  My mistake.

*Reads post*

BWAAAAAHA HAAA HAA HAAAAAA.  Yea right, good luck with that, go lay back down on the couch, Couch. 

Anonymity on the Internet is what makes the Internet great.  We can all be world champion golfers, professional supermodels, THE go-to guy when it comes to training any and every dog, and we're all rich with private islands and a store of knowledge greater than the reigning Jeopardy champion.  Taking away the internet is like taking away oxygen from our atmosphere.  Not only will it not work but it's also impossible without destroying everything.

The Internet is dangerous, scary, full of misinformation, full of information, full of ways to get oneself into trouble that will never go away, but that is why it is great.

"This has to do with children bullied by other children on the internet.  A suicide was blamed on this.  Mom was clueless."

While I am always very sad that kids take their lives over stuff on the Internet, it is not the Internet's fault that bullying goes on in school.  It is not the Internet's fault that a kid can get suspended or kicked out for defending himself/herself against a bully in school (unlike the good ol' days where a good fight would solve the problems, kids would get detention, then shake hands and make up).  It is not the Internet's fault that Mommy let Junior cruise the porn sites and MySpace. 

Oh but I forget our society is currently built on "It was HIS/HER/ITS fault!"  What, take responsibility for MY own actions?  Are you nuts?  Oh yes I did happen to slip and fall on a walnut that was on your sidewalk, so now I am suing you for ten kerbillion dollars because surely you've put the walnut there yourself and had malicious intent!

Originally posted by Mystere:

Wasn't the bullying involved in the teen's suicide actually done by the MOTHER of one for the kid's acquantances? 

You are correct. 

...In fact, the romance was a complete hoax, and the boy, Josh Evans, did not even exist. Worse, the hoax was perpetrated by a mother and father, Lori and Curt Drew, and their daughter, who lived down the street...

The story here:

technologyexpert.blogspot.com/2007/11/in-wake-of-teen-suicide-city-outlaws.html

As I recall ABC reported the same but I can't find that link. 

FWIW - I think both of the adults involved should be facing a wrongful death suit. 

Disclosing one's personal information on the 'net isn't the answer either.  I doubt these two pillars of society used their real names - and they were found. 

You sum things up pretty well Aural.

By Auralythic:

Anonymity on the Internet is what makes the Internet great.  We can all be world champion golfers, professional supermodels, THE go-to guy when it comes to training any and every dog, and we're all rich with private islands and a store of knowledge greater than the reigning Jeopardy champion.  Taking away the internet is like taking away oxygen from our atmosphere.  Not only will it not work but it's also impossible without destroying everything.

Anonymity on the internet is not what makes it great and removing it is not anywhere near the same as removing oxygen from the atmosphere.  We would survive (and have for many years) without the internet.  We would not without oxygen. 

The wealth of legitimate information at one's fingertips is great.  I guarantee that I could not get on and say, "I'm Fiona Dunne, world class golfer", or, "I'm Fiona Dunne, world class supermodel!" without people responding by saying, "Who?".  The "go-to-guy", solely booklearned, never owned or trained a dog in their life trainer, who responds to posted questions as an authority about training/behavior issues over and over again is another story.  That's where research (which can and often is done) on the internet is the most valuable.  It helps one to weed out the know-how's and experienced from the wanna-be's and self-proclaimed "authorities" - the latter being those who respond to training/behavior posts solely on what they've read in books and think they know with no real-life knowledge or experience in the matter.  The ones who fail to inform those they are responding to that they have no "first hand" knowledge but are posting anyway.  Basically, a lie by omission.

While I am always very sad that kids take their lives over stuff on the Internet, it is not the Internet's fault that bullying goes on in school.  It is not the Internet's fault that a kid can get suspended or kicked out for defending himself/herself against a bully in school (unlike the good ol' days where a good fight would solve the problems, kids would get detention, then shake hands and make up).  It is not the Internet's fault that Mommy let Junior cruise the porn sites and MySpace. 

This incident of bullying was at the hands of the adult parents of a neighboring child (along with that child) and was conducted online - not at school.  This wasn't a matter of "caught, detention or fight it out, shake hands, done" although I don't exactly condone the latter.  Nobody said it's the "internet's fault".  It was an abuse of the anonymity (which in the end wasn't as anonymous as they thought) of the internet.  This wasn't a matter of "Mommy letting Junior" it was a matter of "Mommy and Daddy and Ms. Junior" attacking a neighboring child under cover of what they thought was anonymity.  Clearly they were wrong in more ways than one.   

I agree that most people are lacking in personal responsibility.  This was a matter of a pair of alleged "adults" acting like teenagers and acting more stupid than and failing to parent their own child, the result of which cost a child her life.  Granted, at her own hand, but her life nevertheless.

The Internet is dangerous, scary, full of misinformation, full of information, full of ways to get oneself into trouble that will never go away, but that is why it is great.

Ther

There is nothing "great" about getting oneself into trouble that will never go way or abusing the internet to do so.

Still, what is proposed - posting personal names, information, etc. on the internet isn't the way to go.