Is this a coated dog? - Page 3

Regardless of what ANY of us, including SW, think of longcoats, the bottom line is the SV does not approve them for breeding and that's the end of it. If you don't like the SV rules, then organize a lobby to address your concerns to the SV asking  them to accept long coats and to make them eligible for Koers. Or you can continue to breed them without KKL's or V show ratings. Its' a free country after all. 

The point isn't is the dog good looking or  not, or is his structure VA-quality or not - the question is, is he coated?  If the answer is yes, then he would not be eligible for ANY conformation rating let alone a VA, and also no breed survey let alone a KKl-1.  So either he was artfully trimmed for the show (and wouldn't a VA dog be pretty well known) - or the claims of VA and KKl-1 are false (no surprise on this site), or the dog was shown/breed surveyed in a long-coat dog show not an SV one.

molly

SW, please explain how people who disgree with you are ignorant - most of the responders hold dogs against the SV standard not the UKC standard.  Are you aware of the differences or are you "ignorant" of them?

What is involved ( I honestly only know USA and SV) in getting a koerung in other breed regsistires and under what registry is this dog listed since a registration number is not given.  Same thing with getting a V rating?

Merriam-Webster: Ignorant.

1 a: destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b: resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>

http://www.asvd.de/html/vitvomteamfiemereck.html

http://www.ulliundmira.2page.de/

This means he is actually not registered or showed under SVs rules but under different rules for the group with longcoats, correct?  So not recognized by FCI. FYI, his back looks a good bit longer in some of the other pcitures.  So the ratings given have nothing to do with the SV.

Good catch, Nancy.

Speaknow is correct.  A proper coat (the one called for in the standard) is important, since it allows the German Shepherd Dog to work in inclement  weather and rough terrain.   

Molly pretty much summed it up. The dog in the picture is a coat, coats cannot or , rather should not recieve a Koer unless lying or cheating is taking place, as the SV rules stand today. In my opinion the dog isn't anything spectacular to look at. Certainly not VA 2 material. Looks like someone is having a bit of fun with the pedigree database is all.

All you long coat lovers that want to cry fowl and that the dog is being picked on for being a coat, need a kleenex? A question was asked and we are answering it. Why make this a coat/standard war?

If you follow Nancy's links you will see it's a different organization the dog is with.

Hi 4 pack,the fastest way to raise hackles on this board is to mention that longcoats are not eligible for breed surveys or that coated dogs won't do well as tending dogs and we're off to the races.

Off topic - how is your puppy coming along?