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KYLE

by KYLE on 08 February 2008 - 18:02

Wow guys, this was quite interesting to read.  I could not believe the exotic disorders that could be causing this behavior.  I read the post and what came to mind was the dogs natural response to defending itself from being physically and mentally mishandled.  The urination can be from submition in the presence of the owner.  What do they say about animals tat are cornered?  These attacks are not random, its only when confronted by the owner for discipline.  My two cents.

Kyle


Kaffirdog

by Kaffirdog on 08 February 2008 - 18:02

Sounds to me like a dog that has been frightened in a specific situation beyond it's ability to cope and, whenever faced with that situation, overreacts by defending itself.  I have seen it many times with dogs that have been grabbed by the collar and dragged while being scolded, they get frightened and eventually bite if frightened enough.  If and when she pees on the floor at your place, you will see how she behaves.  If the imprinting is very strong, it is possible she will always react with fear aggression when approached if she has peed in the house, though she may be perfectly sensible in any other situation.  My guess is she has been punished either verbally or physically while being dragged to her kennel and become terrified, a 6 month old pup is very impressionable and lots of bitches are more sensitive when in season.

 

Margaret N-J


weberhaus

by weberhaus on 10 February 2008 - 00:02

from being with this dog for the time at this point. She has done nothing worng and we have done some things like make load nosies and try to see what happens when differnt things happen around the house. All is well she is happy go lucky.. Not one thing makes me think she was beaten or has something wrong with her.. UA is negative for infections vet says she is great.. Other pro trainer friend thinks dog is normal and fine.. It this  time i am leaning toward that she was frightened at a major fear time and she thinks that she should corrner her self to avoid conflict. then becasue afaid when they would go to take her out or put her up after this. I did see this owner with the dog when he brought her over. She love him comes to him when he calls and jumps up on him he pushed her down and said no to her and she was like OK what ever. No cowering at all. This does not act like a beat dog at all. IT may be a case of handling mistakes as people make them. I know i have in the past. We will just have to see.


Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 10 February 2008 - 01:02

I would try cornering the dog, and acting in a threatening manner towards it and see what happens. My room mate had a dog that was a fear biter. 99% of the time, he was fine, but if you cornered him, and he felt threatened, he would snap.


weberhaus

by weberhaus on 10 February 2008 - 04:02

i realy dont   want to do that if i dont have to. I would reather see what they see more so than me making her do it directly like that. I may have my husband try to do it after she chases the cat and go stomping up the steps and yell at her and see what her reaction is. When i yelled at her for that i did not chase her but all she did was lay down and watch them for a while. She does not want to hurt them just play and they play with her also.  I realy wanted to avoid any type of forced reaction on my part ... Again we will have to see what happens. She is also very clean in her crate.

Funny thing is i also wanted to see how she felt about her kennel here and when i put her food down tonight he sat in the crate and waited till i said she could eat. I patted her chest a few times and told her she was good and she started mouthing my hand like play with me. So i played with her a little bit and she is mouthy dog and wants to pull on my sleeves and play tug but never bite down. just acted like she did not want to eat only play so i gave her a ball a toys in her crate to play with and told her to eat her food witch she did at that point.. She is realy a good dog.


AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 11 February 2008 - 05:02

weberhaus-  I say keep her then.  She sounds like a normal pup by what you're saying.  Maybe these people are just crazy?? lol


VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 11 February 2008 - 12:02

I agree 110% with Kyle.

 

Only scolded verbally, my @ss. And it magically disappeared for 6 months? Riiiiight. They either have serious respect issues they never bothered to adress, created it through unfair discipline, or both. Did they ever take her to obedience traiing?

Now after a few days she might lighten up with you feel comfortable enough to show these behaviors in your home, but my gut feeling is it won't progress with you because you know what to do, and what not to do, and the owners clearly didn't.






 


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