What do you think? - Page 3

This could also bea dog that would produce some real nice dogs if put with the right female.  The hardness may be the training, the best thing is to talk to the owner in depth and see video of the dog. 

I believe if you goto eliteworkingdogs.com website they have video on him.  The guy I know who was interested in him did see video so I assume it was posted, unless the owner emailed it to him.  From what I gathered out of our conversation this was definately a dog worth looking at IF you know what the hell you're doing.   I have to respect the fact this kennel is being 1000% upfront and honest- says a lot about them since they are not looking just to make a sale and move a dog. I'm not sure how much they want for him either but if I had to guess I'd say it's probably less than we'd expect since there's only a select market that would be interested in a dog like this.

Handler pleasers are great dogs for a novice. I personally love a dog with attitude, I think they make great working dogs if you know what you're doing. The seller is clearly being responsible and honest.

I like the dog and his pedigree.  Brittany, you'd be surprised how many handler aggressive dogs get titles and become top stud dogs.  This dog may just be really tough and not appreciate a heavy hand.  Think about it, it's not much different than people.  Some people walk away when someone gets aggresive towards them and some stand up for themselves.  I had a male GSD that was like this, great dog loved him to death.  However, if he felt a correction went too far he'd let you know it. Sometimes he was right and was saying "hey, I got the point that's enough."  He was not a dog for a soft handler. 

There are also some dogs in Germany that just don't take handler corrections well and are extremely hard and can't be titled.  Match this dog with a strong handler and he'll probably be awesome. 

Jim

I just heard they want 5500EURO for the dog.  I'm not sure exactly that works out to be in US since our dollar is worth shit over there but I'd guess around $8000??  I'm not sure if that's a fair price.  On one hand his pedigree is very nice and he IS  a SCH III but on the other hand the kennel has to know that this isn't exactly the type of dog that can be sold to just about anyone to suit any purpose either.  Only a select market is gonna want this dog and I know my buddy said he wouldn't invest that much in him unless he was a big time kennel that was into the breeding.  Would any of you pay that much for a dog like this?

Id send Xeus first to test him and then if I were young and still in the condition to work him   I would....You ought to see what comes from EUROPE   for between 10g and 15 g  

I love his color and body style ,,,even in the sitz...

Like his pedigree.....

Was this dog  force trained?

I would consider this dog. I like a dog with some fire in him. I would go handle him myself before I made any decision though  he might be a great dog. I'm not spooked by the description of the dog.

I don't know what approach I would take or what I would pay. I would have to see him and work him first then decide.

They said this dog is social & clear in the head. To me, that says he simply a good hard dog. Not for some dummy who would jerk him around, 'cause he'd jerk right back at you! He's certainly handsome. I'd have to meet him & see how we clicked, providing I had the money in the first place. I would never discount an animal on someone else's evaluation of his/her temperment. I have to use my own judgement, and you can't do that from a picture or over the phone. jh

If the right handler got him they could go far.