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by eichenluft on 28 October 2007 - 15:10

I've volunteered in many a shelter where a white or apricot poodle will come in - perfectly groomed and cared for - reason for leaving it in the pound?  "changed my rug/furniture/decor and Fifi doesn't match anymore".  And I've seen this more than a few times, so know it is not just one stupid excuse from one wealthy/ignorant person who shouldn't own a dog in the first place.

 

molly


Shelley Strohl

by Shelley Strohl on 28 October 2007 - 16:10

That's disgraceful. Too bad Fifi couldn't change her owner to match his/her idea of "good taste!"

I wonder what's "in" as far as owner fashion in the dog world these days? I hope its earth colors, cargo pants, well-worn shoes and unstyled coifs, for my own dogs' sakes.

SS


Bucko

by Bucko on 30 October 2007 - 04:10

I once sold a pup to the friend's brother whose wife insisted on keeping the puppy in the basement -- unless the kids were playing with it at that moment.  The puppy spent a month crying at the basement door on the top step.  Luckily, my friend was more ethical than loyal to his brother, scooped the puppy up, and returned it to me.  I insisted on returning the money over his protests.  I was just so happy to have him out of there.

I also know someone who has an apricot poodle who was sold to him because the dog clashed with the white decor. 


by Trafalgar on 01 November 2007 - 23:11

Bucko Providing complete refunds is pretty good sign that a breeder stands by claims that money isn't a prime motivation for their involvement in the dog hobby. Often, breeders are very vocal in criticizing others regarding money - yet their own actions denote greed. Also, although I've heard stories about pet abandonment because of the color & decor clash countless times, I've NEVER heard of one verified case. (I have heard many assertions that weren't accompanied by evidence.) I believe this is more of a suburban myth than we might suppose. Of course - to an abandoned animal - the motivation of the owner - whether valid or frivolous - is of scant importance, wouldn't you agree?

by hussar on 02 November 2007 - 13:11

Sue B you said in 25 yrs you have only had 5 dogs returned for rehomeing you breed for the show ring, so have any been returned from someone who bought one for showing if you havent would you refund the money or would you replace the puppy if one didnt make it for showing,The reason im asking is people pay a lot for a good pup and not all pups turn out for whot they where  bought for and not every one can afford to keep a pup they paid a lott for as a pet.


Sue B

by Sue B on 02 November 2007 - 15:11

Hussar,

This is not the type of thread for individual questions and answers so it is obvious by your direct questions to me that you have an agenda to try to cause mischeif.

I do not know for who you are for sure but I do have my suspicions and I have absolutely no intention of giving you the satisfaction of a reply.

Go play your silly games somewhere else, your type is not welcome here.

Sue B


Don Corleone

by Don Corleone on 02 November 2007 - 16:11

Usually when they ask me my measurements, I get a little suspicious.


Sue B

by Sue B on 02 November 2007 - 16:11

Trafalga

You said "Of course - to an abandoned animal - the motivation of the owner - whether valid or frivolous - is of scant importance, wouldn't you agree?"         Amen to that !!

I AGREE ABSOLUTELY !!!  Indeed one could almost overlook the frivalous brain dead owner who returned pet under what you consider an 'Urban Myth' reason  more than you can the supposed, avid GSD Lover, Enthusiast who pertains to absolutely adore their pup until a floppy ear or missing tooth at 7mth puts a halt to its show career when almost simultaneously the pup turns from adored, beloved pup to a show ring acquisition which the owner can no longer cope with (strange how that simple fault strips these supposed dog lovers of any love, care, compassion or responsibility they should feel for this young fledgeling they now cant wait to get rid of !! These people make me so angry...

One would think such Avid GSD Lovers / Enthusiasts would feel compelled to continue caring for the pup for a few more weeks until a new permanent home can be found wouldnt you? Sadly this sometimes is not the case and from being used to living in a house the poor pup has to adjust to life in a kennel until a new home can be found. How uncaring and totally selfish some people can be and show homes can quite often be the worse kind of home to place your pups simply because the risk of it not remaining a permanent home are high and worse still is that there are very few you can trust to take sufficient care when it comes to rehoming. 

I said it before and repeat - not only is it Buyer but also Seller Beware.

Regards

Sue B

 


Sue B

by Sue B on 02 November 2007 - 17:11

Don Corleone,

Reason for my suspicion, Is that I do not sell pups for the show ring or in other words Show dogs. That is not to say I do not allow pups I breed to be shown,  just that I believe a pup at 8 weeks old is just that... an 8 week old pup !!!  An 8 week old pup is NOT , nor can it be a Show dog at such a young age as it can only be shown from 6 months of age and not before !!  So it is IMPOSSIBLE for a breeder to sell you an 8week old show dog?

If it was possible to know exactly which pups would definately be show dogs at 8 weeks then breeders would never need to 'run on' more than one puppy to ensure they had kept the right one would they ! (ha ha) 

Therefore albeit some pups in a litter might be thought to have more potential than another and may even be of the same quality as the one the breeder themselves are keeping, I am still of the opinion that every 8 week old pup is nothing more than a Pet and should be sold as such, i.e for the same price as every other pup in the litter. 

Furthermore any GSD enthuiast who believes they can go out and buy an 8 week old puppy as a Show Dog, needs to WAKE UP and smell the coffee.

By the way MVP I also absolutely agree with your comment - "Breeders who say that in 30 years they have never produced weak nerves or bad hips are probably too be avoided, so I think the rule is a good one.  Generally. "

Best Regards

Sue B


by sarah west on 02 November 2007 - 19:11

SUE B  Im sorry if ive got this wrong but i certainly  hope you arent refering to whot i went with you and the pup with the missing tooth(pm4)An  no he did not go from being adored to not able to cope you took the dog at a show did you not an ill leave it at that because im not going to drag everything up AGAIN, But i will if i have to.  SARAH WESTWIC                                                             






 


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