Non-GS, but please give opinions of this.... - Page 3

You are not breeding enough to make a "new breed", only producing more mutts.  It takes a lot of dogs to create a breed, if you are breeding each female several times and only keeping one pup off her, your generation interval is far too long.  If your keeping a dog back every seven years (reasonable given the information you have posted), then in your lifespan, you could possibly get to the seventh generation but with only one level (dog) at each interval.  Utterly pointless unless you have a huge support system with many many other breeders doing the same thing with the same goal.  I dont know if you seriously think you can create a breed under the circumstances you posted, or whether you are a very good bullshitter, but either way you did not do your research first. 

The fact that you already have two very different "types" also shows you are not selecting correctly, if you are going to create a breed, it cannot have two totally different appearances.  You must pick one and stick with it, write your standard and be prepared to adjust it for future generations as needed, once you get the mix stablized and producing consistantly.  The definition of a purebred dog is one who reproduces a consistant standard in their puppies (aka - breeds true) and your two types demonstrate that you do not have that quality and are not trying for it.   

There is a post online that I have tried to find, giving the amount of cats and length of time it would take for one person to recreate a breed that originated from persians and siamese (himi I think?), with a viable genetic base resulting, if I remember the data correct, it was 230+ adult cats at any given time and about 120 yrs of breeding. 

Last comment, the first dog looks identical to my sister's mutt, who is a great pyr. crossed with a lab/husky with the size of the great pyr.  You would think they are siblings! 

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They are weaned early because they develop very rapidly."    This has GOT to be a joke. because they develop very rapidly?????   What, have you genetically mutated these poor mutts to develop all of their sense of order, response, and society into two weeks? So if they develop that rapidly, hmm...let's see....that would be about a one to four ratio of a normal dog and since they are giant breeds who live a shorter life does that mean they will die in 5 years?

But, none of us should even try logic or reason with this Donald Trump mad scientist.  All he cares about is whatever venture is gonna line his pocket and stroke his ego. 

Someone comes on here talking about breeding their untitled dogs and gets jumped and this moron comes on gets support for the irresponsible shit he's doing? Unbelievable.  (And Echo please don't make this about your program.)

Bright sky and colored lollipops? Specifically what color are those lollipops and how many have you had?

God, but I'm sick of these type of people.

No, wait....that would be more like 2 or 3 years.....

you do know that they make decaf right?

Oh, wait.....figuring in God only knows what genitic compilation from these unknown combinations I guess that would be more like a year or so............

Hey, I've got an idea    WHY NOT JUST STOP BREEDING THEM TO BEGIN WITH??????

If you are that financially strapped just go to any back alley and scoop the poor things out of a box and advertise them as being some "breed" you invented? At least that way you are helping the pet population instead of adding to it.

"The various advantages of the American Superior as I have come to observe and understand them by breeding this dog are many. Physical advantages include gracefulness of appearance, great strength, speed, the breed seems less prone to hip and bone diseases, they’re well balanced, and well proportioned, they are hardy and seem generally resistant to most canine diseases. They have excellent hearing and a superb sense of smell, as well as sharp eyesight.

In other respects the breed also displays a great number of additional advantages. The breed is very intelligent (generally the most intelligent breed of dog I have ever observed), independent, easy to train, obedient, gentle with children and gets along well with other animals, loyal, very protective of their owner and their owners property, and they are at all times keen and alert. They make good outside dogs as well as excellent inside dogs. They make good work, police, and military dogs. They make excellent guard and watchdogs, hunters (see A Very Short History of the Great Dane below), excellent tracker and rescue dogs (see A Very Short History of the Saint Bernard below), and excellent individual and family companions and pets. Because of the beautiful and well-proportioned appearance they would also make good show dogs."

This is from the American Superior website.  I would question how the person came to many of the conclusions about the mix.  Are there that many generations on the ground that he can make claims of superior health, etc.?  Has he placed dogs with the military or the police?    I was not aware police & military use St Bernards or Great Danes in any of their programs.

If in fact, the dogs are all that the person claims they are, then they are indeed superior dogs. 

http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/saintbernards.html

http://www.yourpurebredpuppy.com/reviews/greatdanes.html

Looks like these breeds match up pretty good on, Slobbering and drooling, Gassiness (flatulence), Serious health problems and a short lifespan, and  Separation anxiety" (destructiveness) when left alone too much.

von symphoni, I have to admit, that mendellian genetics post you made is way over my head. May I call you "The Maestro"?

von symphoni, while you do have an impressive grasp of the fundamentals of ninth grade science and an astonishing ability to say absolutely nothing while producing a surprisingly realistic impersonation of knowledge I wonder if you might forgoe the PBS version of, "Split Pea Soup-A Real Family or Just Legumes?". 

http://www.donovank-9.com/breeds.html

anyone ever seen one of these?   A Donovan Pinscher