DeGeneres vs. Mutts n Moms Rescue - Page 3

JMHO

I think the blame is misplaced in this case. Your word is your bond. It is one of the few things that can't be taken away. I know this is an emotional issue. When Ellen D comes out crying , as a victim, it is easy to side with her. The problem is she was made to sign a contract that protected the dog, the real issue, and she decided she couldn't handle it. She dumped the dog because she didn't want to go back to the shelter and admit she screwed up. It doesn't matter who she gave it to; she broke her word. Because of her lack of integrity she has caused two little girls a grat deal of pain.

It is easy to attack the shelter and rally the troops to send abusive emails trying to put pressure on them. No, she didn't directly ask her audience to put pressure on these folks, but if you think she didn't understand the consequences of her actions then you believe she is not the business women she is.

I ask you to just think about it.

spooke- no doubt Ellen broadcasted the story on her show with the hopes and intentions that not only her "followers" but also animal advocates would put pressure on the rescue group AND I guess the rescue lady realized that and still took her stand to send her own message saying I don't care if it's Ellen DeGeneres I'm taking the dog back because I can.  It was just a real shitty thing to do to those kids and the dog who I'm sure developed a bond.

I don't disagree, but my point is, Ellen is a big name who thinks the rules are for somebody else. I respect the shelter owner for having the balls to stand up to her. I feel sorry for the kids, but Ellen D is the blame, not the kennel.

I did exactly what Ellen did and I am not sorry nor am I ashamed that I broke my word to the rescue place. If I was dumping her on the street or was putting her in a  sketchy enviornment  I ABSOLUTELY would have returned her. However in my case and it seems like in Ellen's case the the fact that we used our brains,our hearts and our common sense and got a TERRIFIC homes for the dogs should be good enough for the rescue group. Or like someone said earlier  is it the $$$ they can get to re-adopt the dog that  was their motivation.

Why didn't they just check out the home the dog was already in and make a determination. My opinion is they are power crazy and believe "they" are the only ones that can make a good decision and with the $$$ attached it makes me wonder who's making the "best decisions here????

OK I'm off the soap-box

Holy cow...I do rescue and if I charged $600 for a mutt, I'd be RICH!!! Need to go jack up my fees, lol.

There's the contract and then there's being HUMAN and putting the dog's needs first. I always have a clause in my contracts that the dog be returned to us if for some reason it didn't work out, but also if there is a problem brewing, that they call and talk to me about it so it can be worked through. The reason for the return clause is people would be quicker to dump the dog at the shelter than face the music and call and make up some lame excuse as to why they couldn't keep it. Also another reason the dog leaves chipped in my name and when I transfer the owner info, I am listed as the backup contact.

My question is...did Ellen ever contact the rescue saying it wasn't working for the dog, or did she just give it to the other people? That really should have been her first course of action. I guess she didn't think it would be a big deal. If the dog came from me, and the adopter calls and says it just isn't working but there's a great home for the dog already lined up, then I'd call the potential new home - not to play interrogator - but to make sure they have my contact info and that I am there for any reason if they need me, bla bla bla, etc. Why uproot the dog even more?

That rescue should have not seized that dog back. Of course their rules about kids' ages is rediculous too. This rescue sounds like they are run by PETA. No....guess the dog wouldn't be alive if that was the case *snort*

Maybe I'm just too laid back. Alot of rescues hate me as it is because I don't alter my own dogs (although I'm not a breeder either). But freakin' gosh that rescue just sounds like a bunch of wanna-be elitist fanatics. I'd never seize a dog out of a good home just for the sake of a piece of paper. Whole situation irritates the hell out of me. That and the phone ringing off the hook yesterday "did you see what happened to Ellen?" Uggh. Ellen was in the wrong according to the contract, but I think her heart was in the right place, it's not like she dumped it at the pound or sold it for research. And any rescue with half a freakin' brain and a bit of ethics would have put the dog's needs first.

I guess we can agree to disagree. I have to say Ellen was very generous today. She asked her followers to quit issuing death threats to the shelter (that's why they've closed down their site) and she has said she would quit verbalizing her concern for the dog on TV (harrassing the shelter owner) when it was returned to the little girl. She knows exactly what she is doing and understands the power she wields. She's a great entertainer, but a miserable human being.

I have very mixed feelings about this one.  It's sad the new family and kids did not get to keep the dog.  However, how many of you here have posted sections of your own contracts stating the exact same clause and have been furious when a purchaser broke that clause.  I know I've read a few cases right here on PDB. 

I do wish the rescue place would have given some leaway and done some checking before taking the dog right back.  Kids that age can be great with small dogs.  I've also seen kids athat age I wouldn't let within 500 feet of any animal. It should be a case by case basis not a one size fits all clause.

IMHO.

It would have been better if they went over to have them fill out paperwork and checked their home and family members out before yanking the dog away. Better a loving home, than back into a holding tank. Thats pretty freakin' heartless.

Yes the majority of us do have first right of refusal but how often is it really put into play? If the original owner feels happy with where the dog is going who am I to stick my nose in? Most people have that in place for the dolts that want a quick out from puppy hell. I'll take a dog back in a heartbeat if you are going to dump it or stick it in the pound.

Motivation here can only be for...

1 press, which is now not going in the direction the adoption lady would have wanted.

2. money, another $600 fee or maybe more now that the dog used to be Ellen DeGeneres' personal pet.

3. Power trip, from a bitch that doesn't hold a real job, she sure showed Ellen a thing or two!

You`re kidding right. That rescue was 100% right and Ellen and her chick were 100% wrong. They created this fiasco and now are using Ellen`s celebrity as a bully pulpit.

As an adopter you don`t get to make the rules or break the contract. How about a puppy buyer that meets the breeders criteria so they get a bitch on the terms that she be bred once after she is proved breed worthy. Well the buyer decides they don`t have the time so they spay her at a young age. They were good intentioned and provide a good home. Tuff crap about your contract and investment in that dog. You don`t get to pick and choose what contracts you honor breaking a contract shows you have no honor like Ellen.

Buy the way the hairdresser was given the opportunity to fill out paperwork and chose not to fill it out.