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by Sheesh on 14 October 2007 - 14:10

IMO, the second x-ray should coem back at least "GOOD".

Theresa


EKvonEarnhardt

by EKvonEarnhardt on 14 October 2007 - 15:10

after relooking at the hips again the left  hip on the second picture is slowly starting to change if you look closely

also hard to tell on the right  hip as it is too far pulled to the left but slight changes are taking place looking from the top hip.

My answer would be either the same Moderate or worse.

 


by Do right and fear no one on 14 October 2007 - 15:10

Interesting.  I wonder if this is how the process goes at OFA, with opinions so far apart.  Some guessing that the second pic will be Good or maybe even better, and some guessing it will come back as Moderate or worse.  Time will tell.


by Shandra on 14 October 2007 - 16:10

Try as I may I cannot see the differences, I am still trying to learn what to look for.

It would be very educational if someone could post Xrays with good positioning in each catagory, I would really like to see what Excellent hips look like.

Therese


by Do right and fear no one on 14 October 2007 - 16:10

I wonder if I had a dog that actually had excellent hips, and they came back as good, because of poor positioning, would it be worth it to have them redone and re-evaluated?  Is that a "selling" point for puppies, or is Good just dandy?


Bob-O

by Bob-O on 14 October 2007 - 21:10

After I looked very carefully (poor eyesight, even with strong glasses) I did notice a tiny remodelling of each acetebelum in the first x-ray, and again the right side is more noticeable.  Evenso, this is happening for a reason. The rest of the joint does not look bad on this dog. Is this dog right-footed and if so is this the result of an environmental rather than hereditary cause? I don't wish to start the 70:30 battle here.

Do Right, I am very happy with an O.F.A. "Good" on any dog I own or produce.

Thanks Again,

Bob-O


by oso on 14 October 2007 - 23:10

I do not know much about OFA (we use the SV system) but I know that here neither of these X-rays would be accepted for an official reading. The knees have to be visible (they are not in the first one) and the femurs have to be completely parallel (they are not in either of these, but worse in the second one). I am surprised if OFA accepts the second one. Having said that, its strange that in the second one the hips look alot better than in the first, as theoretically having the knees pulled close together should make the hips look worse?

by GS Mom on 14 October 2007 - 23:10

It's because of the tension being put on the legs while the upper body is pulled away.  This will pull the femur heads deeper into the sockets.


by Do right and fear no one on 15 October 2007 - 00:10

I should have stated that the first pic above, actually has the knees showing in the original x-ray, but I did not get those in my picture here.   Only time will tell (about three weeks from now) whether OFA accepts the second x-ray for evaluation.  If not, I wonder if this vet will re-do for free?  I never thought to ask.  It is my understanding that you are correct about the femurs needing to be parallel.  Geesh, I had my hopes up that this was finally over.  Thanks a lot for causing me to lose sleep again tonight, oso. 


by oso on 15 October 2007 - 18:10

very sorry about your loss of sleep Do Right...!! but I would think the vet should do it again for free if it is not acceptable. Let us know how it goes and fingers crossed for a favourable outcome... I do not think there are any major problems with these hips anyway, at worst mild dysplasia (still acceptable in SV system) but probably not even this.





 


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