What do yu all think about this muzzle work? - Page 3

Actually that wasn't bad at all. I would have like to see the dog using his body more. This could be the helper work and/or the dog is just beginning muzzle work. The helper work was great for a dog just starting muzzle work. If the dog has more experience, I would have liked ot see more opposition from the helper.

I don't like doing long sends with a muzzle, don't see the point. You could injure the dog or the dog could learn some poor technique. I really liked the fact that the dog was going into social dominance with the helper. Laying on and standing on the guy when he was down. Like the control but I don't see the purpose in control with muzzle work. If a guy goes to the ground and is fighting your dog, why do you need an out? In real life, at this point you better have several people comming to control the bad guy. If not, I wouldn't out my dog.

Not bad by any means though.

In my opinion; pointless and infuriating.

It aggravates the dog, which has no ability to bite. Really, if you want a dog to be trained for a real situation; TAKE THE MUZZLE OFF. He isn't going to bite, eventually. He'll be so accustomed to the customary tackle that when the time comes for you to take the muzzle off, he will have no notion of what to really do instead of tackle until the victim surrenders. Just my opinion. Even though it may be an interesting event to put a muzzle on a dog that's never done the work, just to see what they do. Always interested in new things. :]

O.k to all that are against this muzzle training. Do you think that real life training is all done in a bite suite?? How many criminal wear a bite suite when they are out commiting crimes?? Without muzzle work how do you get as close to real-life without the bite suite and still build drive and confidence?? 

This muzzel work is to keep the dog fighting and not be happy until the fight is done ( and help understand that in real-life the bite suite is not there), as the person that is doped up is not going to just stop after the first bite. Once again is it drive building.

TS 342003  I am NOT agaisnt it

"the person that is doped up is not going to just stop after the first bite"  correct and he is not just going to be nice about it either he will be screaming and cusing,  hitting and kicking none of what this decoyer is doing.

Maybe it is just me and the way I train but even on hidden sleeves and ect we are very vocal  and physical with our dogs . By NO means do we beat or harm our dogs but they are prep for every day work.

EK-

I do agree 100% with the yelling/screaming and it was not done. I think that all these types of post are a double edge sword. it is easy to be a critic about peoples training style but they may have had a reason behind not yelling/screaming!!  The work looked decent to me just lacking the vocal aspect.

TS I hear you on the double edge sword. 

I think personally the dog is more advance then what they gave him credit for  (decoy work)  is what I am saying. I never said any thing wrong about the dog as he did his job.