Anyone see this at the BSP? - Page 3

I agree with Don,

I've watched this video clip plenty of times and I do not see any injury on this dog. I do not think the judge would allow a dog with an injury to continue to compete.

What I saw was a dog with a nerve problem that cannot deal with pressure situations. The dog clearly didn't take a bite. It isn't the helpers fault for the training that the dog receives. I do not blame the helper but the handler. We as handlers need to be completely honest with what we have, yeah it's great feeling that we might have a national level dog but unfortunately it doesn't happen just like that. You need to have a solid steel nerve dog with with courage. If your dog cant handle pressure, then it's not a national level competition dog.

As far as the reaction from the audience. I can understand them as some came from a far distance around the world to see top level dogs compete, not seeing local level competition. This cost the spectators tons of money on hotel fees/ car rentals, Flight cost,etc.

I'm not going to pass judgement based upon a few seconds of tape.  I was hoping a knowledgable person who attended the BSP & observed the protection phase would perhaps comment on this dogs' performance.

Why do you need someone that was there, who only got one glimps of the incident?  We can watch it over and over and over and over and over and over and over, until we see the same thing every time.  How many more seconds of tape do you need?  Do you want to see the footage of the handler loading him into his vehicle for the last time?  What are you looking for?  Do you want a knowledgeable person to say everything else went o.k., but watch the video to see where it went wrong? 

The dog was tested and failed.  If I took a high level math exam today, I would fail.  The two reasons would be that I am not ready and I don't have the ability. 

Because I want to hear from someone who saw the entire routine, or perhaps someone who took footage of the whole routine will post it.  I don't think I need to justify my wish to see the entire routine first, AND I'm not disagreeing with anyones critique.  So back off a little, buddy!!!

Any video of the first half of the dogs performance?

The video looks bad for the dog that is for sure...

"What I saw was a dog with a nerve problem that cannot deal with pressure situations. The dog clearly didn't take a bite. It isn't the helpers fault for the training that the dog receives. I do not blame the helper but the handler. We as handlers need to be completely honest with what we have, yeah it's great feeling that we might have a national level dog but unfortunately it doesn't happen just like that. You need to have a solid steel nerve dog with with courage. If your dog cant handle pressure, then it's not a national level competition dog."  

That is great Britt, So which is it, bad training or bad nerves?

Are we going to drop the gloves, eh?

What more could you see?  I'm sure the judge told him to take the dog off the field immediately.  What do you want to see, the hold and bark?  The escape? 

Hey Justdontget it, 

Man, your name says more than your comments.  I don't comment much on these boards but it appears that you are the world's biggest arschloch so tell us, what is the name of one of your dogs?  Been to any trials lately?  Signed any autographs? 

Mike Williams

Alte Baum Kennel

Don, ole buddy, ole pal, I really just want to see the rest of the routine.   I'd like to see the blind search, the hold & bark, etc., -  that is if you don't mind!   I am wanting to know if there was anything out of the ordinary that occurred up to that point.  If the dog is a shitter, fine, he's a shitter, I just am reluctant to say that based on a few seconds of tape.  I mean, come on, being in the BSP is for many the dream of a lifetime, and to have one of the worst things possible happen has got to be nothing short of a nightmare.  The handler probably died a little out there in those few seconds, so for me, out of compassion for the handler and his dog, I reserve the right to not pass judgement based on a few seconds of tape.

Please realize I am not disagreeing or disaproving of what others are saying, I just really feel for the guy & his dog. 

Take a look at Javir Talka Marda. The awsome protection got cheers at the hold and bark, the power in the escape, attack out of the back transport and the courage test. A couple brain farts in the dogs head cost him 100 points I would think. It is attached to the you tube above. Enjoy

rc:  Thanks for pointing out that dog.  Very exciting to watch.  I also liked his tight blind search (until the last).  His 94 ob routine is also on "u tube".  Thomas Lapp & Falco's part "c" are on "u tube" as well, also very exciting to see.