Why are extreme stacked pics so popular? - Page 3

Here is a workingline with correct structure. Could not resist, she is mine, lol! My Chuckie Girl!!

Zdog- i agree, i see some of the pics/ads and it actually makes me nauseous<--(spell?)  a little cause it almost looks like their back is broken---when the back is shaped like a C turned sideways

~julie~

when did stacking become so popular.  I must admit, i haven't been around long enough to know the full history of the GSD, it would make me pretty old if was.  BUT, reading the translated version of Max's book, he stated that "posing" for pictures should not be done.  He stated for ideas on structure the dog should be walked into a natural stance and the photo taken.  Did they always use a "stacked" position where the handler stacks the dog in shows?  or is this recent?

That seems fair and like the right thing to do in assessing a breed.  That would answer the question, How does the dog look naturally?  It seems the best way to accurately judge a dog.  If something is out of place in a natural walked into stack, then maybe something isn't right somewhere in the biomechanical chain.  Sure seems a lot more valuable than allowing, people to stand with their feet behind the dogs feet so he can't move into a more comfortable position, or placing the feet a certain way to hide certain flaws the dog might have just to get a better rating or show finish.  I mean this is supposed to be about creating a stronger, improved breed, not hiding flaws so you can charge more money for puppies right? 

julie,

I was upset or offended by your opinion. We are all entitled to your own opinion. it came across to me as more of a negative feeling than of someone want to learn about the breed.. the length of bone, croup, hieght of the withers, gait and front assembly all play a big factor in what the GSD was bred to do. The picture you posted i have a few questions about. IS that the extreme stand you are referring too.  Most german shepherds will stand that way if you just watch them in the a open field or when they are are alert.. There is nothing out of the norm in that stance. The great thing about the breed is that we have one standard and million views to that standard.. That is why we all keep trying to improve each breeding.

ceddy

Julie, you like working lines.    Most do not stack like show lines.   Many of us like working lines though we can appreciate many of the show lines too.  Not that I would trade. 

Chris nice dog .. very very nice dog  !!!-- if that dog can work [ and i don't mean a paper title , nor imply protection alone since i value search and rescue , bomb detection dogs etc etc, just as importantly ] i would love to own it in a heart beat . great for you !~[ and the dog too for it has a good owner !-]  - ok -- the post brings up a valid point -- and one of the main reasons i have left the SV -- they don't seem to follow ..[ well you fill in the rest of that sentence ] .. when i learned about the GSD years ago ..from sun up to sundown seven days a week , week after week .. I had a poster of the GSD .. exactly as if it were real to life in front of me .  .. every angulation every proportion in exactitude. that arch back is not IMO within the standard !!! .. there are anatomical reasons as to why the standard is the Standard in those respects, ht, legnth, width , proportions , angles etc . - i don't always advocate books or tapes .. but if you want to better you knowledge or you breeding, I  will tell you that even if you have 30 years in the GSD business  you must see the following tape by Canine Training Systems " the German Shepherd Dog , GAIT. " most catalogues carry it. you would be astonished as to what is being produced and what isn't  in the GSD world .. what places in shows  and shouldn't place  ! Trust me .. you will never .. never.. never  look at the GSD again the same way .. it's structure , muscles and tendons [ because they relate to movement] . they are all correlated  . the theory is explained exactly -- please view it .. i think you will unrelentingly agree with the first post here

CEDDYG-- QUOTE>>>The picture you posted i have a few questions about. IS that the extreme stand you are referring too.  Most german shepherds will stand that way if you just watch them in the a open field or when they are are alert.. There is nothing out of the norm in that stance. <<<

 No-- this is not the extreme i was refering to---this is what i think looks pretty/good, i love the way this dog is posed--exactly as you said-- quote>>>Most german shepherds will stand that way if you just watch them in the a open field or when they are are alert.. There is nothing out of the norm in that stance.<<< It is a normal way to stand...and what i was askin before was , i don't think that a dog shaped like a sideways C looks normal, so why are people making them stand that way,what reason,what does it prove?that the dog is flexiable? but i guess my question has been answered, this is my understanding--some people just like it that way, by doing something different, more extreme, they think they are making it something better (im talking about the ones that force their dog to stand that way)....also some dogs are built like that and they stand that way normally..which brings me another question...were these dogs that normally stand like that on their own, breed for that purposely? or do some just 'happen' to turn out that way?

~julie~

Animules---I think your right, i guess i do perfer the working lines, is that what kind of debate i started here..lol.. showing/workin? ....if i did i didn't mean to......the question was about why some GSD were like that , i didnt even know it had anything to do with show/workin lines...

~JULIE~

Julie,

you asked why the extreme stacks are so popular and I think I answered your question. Did you even acknowledge that? Or maybe, just maybe, Ceddy is right and you wanted to start a new controversial thread about show vs. working? Reading your last statement, I have to question your motives here as well. Glad you prefer the workinglines and good that you have stablished that.

And in case you wonder why I have posted a photo of my working girl: this is to show you that any correctly structured GSD will look like this stacked. I thought since you are so new to the breed (as you claim) that might be of interest to you.

Chris

Sorry, it is supposed to read "established" and not "stablished".