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DesertRangers

by DesertRangers on 27 July 2007 - 22:07

I can tell you in west texas I know world class intelligent moral people who live in trailer houses and most do not live in a park. i don't think you can judge people by where they live. If i think they dont understand the needs to own a gsd then I will discuss and see if they can handle one in a good fashion.  Usually if you get them talking about previous dogs they owned you will discover alot about them and if you want them to own one of your pups or not.


by GoldenElk on 27 July 2007 - 22:07

Thank you all for your responses. I have to say, I am pleasently surprised by the thoughfulness that was put into many of the replies. Someone alluded to the premise of this thread being offensive - it should be! The subject came about because I had the "pleasure" of bumping into a GSD breeder (or so he called himself) who said he flat out would never sell a dog to anyone who lived in the 'hood...he went on to mention the recent drama with M. Vick as if that is evidence that every black owner of a dog is abusive. I'm stunned by the narrow mindedness of humans - sometimes I feel like our culture hasn't progressed at all. It's ironic that the responses on "this" board would give me evidence that contentious people aren't a dying breed.

by Willy on 27 July 2007 - 22:07

I'm not a breeder, but I do have a question since I have adopted 2 gsd from the shelter, and purchased 2 from breeders.

How do you know where they really live?  I can see the shelter's knowing by tax records here, since they asked on a questionaire and did check. I had to provide a copy of my tax record before I could adopt. I think this is a great practice, or if you rent you must provide a contact number from the owner of the property or managment company. Yes I had to wait 2 day for the reference checks, but I was honest and did not mind at all. I'm sure there are ones who are not so truthful, or would not have so many in shelters.

When I have purchased from breeders I was not asked where I lived, but was questioned if I rent or own was all.  

Just my 2 cents worth.


4pack

by 4pack on 27 July 2007 - 23:07

If I have another litter, I am thinking about asking for a ID or Drivers license to photo copy. At that point I think most con artists will move on without a pup for fear of being tracked down later. 


by jodagirl on 27 July 2007 - 23:07

 "that every black owner of a dog is abusive."

Uh oh, someone better go get Wallace Payne's dogs before they are too far gone from abuse.

What a absolutely preposterous statement.


by GoldenElk on 27 July 2007 - 23:07

Willy - For breeders who don't do case by case screenings and who just refuse to sell to a particular element, I think a lot of assumption is based on race, accent (if person happens to be non-black), surname and if the sale is made locally, most people who have lived in a city, county or state for more than 3 or more years develop assumptions of where the "bad" people live vs the "good" people. Of course, there are also websites where you can compare poverty rates in an area by zip code.

by GoldenElk on 27 July 2007 - 23:07

Correcting myself:

It's ironic that the responses on "this" board would give me evidence that contentious conscientious people aren't a dying breed.

 

God, this board sure is bleeding for an edit button.


DesertRangers

by DesertRangers on 28 July 2007 - 00:07

Dog people come in all races, colors, male and female, social classes and so on.  I was training one day out outside of town and a older man stopped and advised me to be aware that he had seen javalina pigs in the area. we got to talking and i went to his home (double-wide in a trailer park) and met his wife. They were dog lovers and ran a rescue out of their home and had about 20 small breed dogs that they had rescued and were trying to find homes.  They paid all the bills for food and healthcare out of their meager income every month. Bottom line these were simply dog people and while socially poor they were of the highest caliber human beings that you will ever know.  Again, dog people come in all colors, shapes and types and live all over the world.


animules

by animules on 28 July 2007 - 00:07

It's funny, my folks live in a "trailer park".  This is a senior park (55+), co-op, very high end, gaited community, individual owned lots, club house with pool, large yard common area, great walking within the park on nice wide sidewalks.   It would be too bad if somebody turned down somebody living there if they were intrested in a puppy because it was a "trailer park".


by Do right and fear no one on 28 July 2007 - 01:07

I once rescued a pregnant Bull Mastiff/Boxer cross and I kept three of her pups.  The rest I sold for twenty bucks.  I told all of the buyers to never take the dog to the pound or dump it, if things did not work out.  I told them to bring the dog back to me anytime, and I would give them their money back.  One did, who lived in a trailer park just down the road from me. The dog was vicious towards children.  I found out from neighbors that she kept it tied to the trailer and her three brat kids literally tortured the dog much of the time.  No wonder it hated kids.  He was dangerous towards kids and would jump through a glass window to get at them.  I tried working with him for three years but eventually had to put him down as he was just too dangerous.  He is buried on my property, with a flowering plant growing on his grave, that I planted, and everytime I walk past his grave, I tell him I am sorry for everything.  They named him SoKo (short for Southern Comfort).  I re-named him South, just because it was similiar.  I still have his mother andsiblings and they are just the best dogs anyone could want.

However:

Prior to purchasing my first home at age 29, my wife and I lived in a trailer and had two dogs.  It did not matter to them that they lived in a trailer and it did not matter to us.  We treated them just like we now treat our dogs, on ten acres in a stick built, nice home, with two ponds, etc.

If you LOVE your dogs, it does not matter where you live.  If you just HAVE a dog, it does not matter where you live.  You are who and what you are, no matter where you live.  There are poor jerks, rich jerks and middle class jerks.  Sometimes even I am a jerk.

I'm sorry South.  Rest in Peace.






 


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