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by Working Dogs on 13 July 2007 - 09:07
GoldenElk,
I'm still looking for the monk's training DVD's. Any pointers?
by GoldenElk on 13 July 2007 - 11:07

by Working Dogs on 13 July 2007 - 11:07
That'll teach me to be flippant.
by Larrydee on 13 July 2007 - 11:07
The Monks of New Skete DVD is very well produced makes the Leerburg videos look like amateur night. One funny thing though the Monks say on their web site they make no money from them and can not recommend or stand by them even though their training methods are used and they appear in them. Sounds like a legal issue to me. But the Monks DVD is mile apart from the Leerburg vidoes in quality and content.
by Uglydog on 13 July 2007 - 13:07
My biggest issue with "honest " Ed, is that he does Not title his Female "breeding machines."
They are Untitled, period and he promotes them (like everything else) as the greatest thing in the world. Sorry, no one gets a pass, not even Max himself! The German testing system was set up for a reason and that is to evaluate talent and ability not only in individual dogs but entire litters, to expose weaknesses & strengthsand/ or anything that might be helpful for a breeder. To withdraw from any formalized testing format because you have a larger than life personna & sell alot of videos or produced 300 litters that have done nothing, well that is largely BS, and is Not helpful to anyone. In fact it is dishonest , in my humble opinion.
But as they say, a "...." is born every minute.
by GoldenElk on 13 July 2007 - 13:07
>>That'll teach me to be flippant.

by Sunsilver on 13 July 2007 - 15:07
http://dogsbestfriend.stores.yahoo.net/
You can also order them directly from the monks.
Of course, they don't do a very good job of teaching the full mouth grip....
but we're experts at biting on this site anyway, aren't we? (closest I could come to a snarling smiley)
by ProudShepherdPoppa on 14 July 2007 - 15:07
Like most, Leerburg has some good infoand it's share of BS. Yes he is pretty full of himself. I've certainly never seen that in any other trainer LMAO. The trick is to filter out the crap from the gold.
by harddawg on 24 July 2007 - 07:07
Well said ProudShepherdPoppa!
A quote from the Leerburg forums;
"Dog training is a personal endeavor. it is a relationship between you and your dog. As such go learn from some of the best, understand the differences, and go out and gain as much knowledge as possible from everyone available. Then go do the work and adjust it for your needs, develop your own style and system. With the help and assistance of knowledgeable instructors ... adjust, refine, and hone your own work. The biggest downfall I see in the sport of dog training is the attempt to train a dog in this persons or that persons way. Not that you don't begin with examples and working through the basics with the help of others insightful experiences....no need to reinvent the wheel here....but the skills are very much kinestetic. You have to practice, you have to run with it and become skilled in your way."
"...never one trainer vs. another in regards to what knowledge is available. Soaking up as much information and being able to catagorize it and distill it into your technique is how people like Ellis, Flinks, and Balabanov put their "style" together."
K. Sheldahl
There are new and interesting techniques to be found nearly everywhere, you just have to look around and choose what works for you. Take everything you can get.

by PowerHaus on 24 July 2007 - 13:07
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