coated or longhair? - Page 2

DDR Just curious on how you can tell from the pedigree that this line can produce plush and long coats? Is it caused from the sire's side or dam's side? or both? I have a female pup from this litter, she looks nothing like her brother and has a standard coat.

zigzag I think your male would be considered a long coat but the females pic is hard to know for sure. Alot is that fuzz around and in the ears that gives it away. What I think is plush, are dogs that the fur/hair around the head is normal like a stock coat, the neck may have a thick ruff and the rest of the body the guard hairs stick out straight with a heavy under coat. Crazyhorse, the coat factor is a recessive gene, it comes from both sides, or so "they" say. I question that though... it just depends on how the genes link together. Thats why some carry the coat gene and some will not.

marci, that second link was rather interesting. Don't think I've seen a long coat quite like that before :-) angusmom, my male long coat has a LOT of drive when it comes to chasing balls and critters, but is a little laid back when it comes to people and other dogs. If pushed he'll put his paw down, but he seems to take most situations in stride. I also have a coated showline female http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/468310.html I wouldn't call her laid back. She actually went after someone who was trying to climb over my back gate a few days ago. Really surprised me as she was the submissive piddler when I first got her.

Both parents have to carry the long hair gene to produce a longhair.

I for one am so sick of this debate. To disqualify an otherwise great dog because they have a little extra fuzz on their ears or tail is ridiculous. As things stand now, it is simply a matter of opinion as to whether a given dog is a longhair, plush, or whatever and you all know what they say about opinions! If it is such a MAJOR fault then someone needs to come out with a clear cut definition as to what EXACTLY constitutes the fault!!! And don't even try to tell me that it effects their herding ability. Look at the herding group in any show ring and see how many long coated dogs are represented. Most from cold snowy countries.

What's the difference between a long coat and a standard coat that carries the recessive long coat gene? For breeding purposes, there is no difference. I was told by a breeder that the SV does not allow longcoats to be bred, yet it was his stud that sired the long coat he was selling. If a breeder knows that his stud carries the recessive LC gene, shouldn't all the females that stud is bred to be tested? Zidane Sevens carries the LC gene and look how often that dog is used for stud. Are all the females tested first? Not allowing a long coat to breed is a joke when you consider how many of the long coats are produced by standard coats that carry the recessive gene. Besides, those showline hump backs should be the dogs who are not allowed to breed. LOL

Hey go back to the first link and look at the "sire" again. Is it a joke?? http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/448157.html

Ok,I'm guessing anyone can go in and change pics.Here I thought was dealing with adults. And I'm guessing the person that did this doesn't have the balls to admit it.

Ok might sound like a stupid question but if i do breed him with a female that doesn't carry longcoats or coated will i still end up with coated or longcoat?

Plush coat means there is an undercoat, and that the hairs are longer and fuller than a Short coat and it is still an allowable length for the showring, (and often preferred). Unlike the Standard Long Coat which has softer, longer hairs and no undercoat and is considered a fault in the standard. It is typified by the ear tufts and feathering of the legs. A dog with a Stock Long Coat would have an undercoat, as well as the longer, softer outer coat.