Breeders: Reason for "in house" only stud dogs? - Page 2

I think someone already alluded to this, but not having to deal with "naive" bitch owners is another. Like this guy who wants to breed his female at 20-something days because he read in a book that the 24th day is best, doesn't want to do any health or progesterone screenings on the female, then gets all bent out of shape because the stud-owner wants to AI to prevent STDs, except the male in question has no interest producing a specimen for a female who is so far past her ideal time she even flagging.

Because then, of course, it's the stud-owner's fault for having a defective male *eyeroll*

And of course the stud-owner, and everyone else who told the female-owner he waited to long are just covering up a bad producer. Forget the fact that this is the female-owner's first dog and attempt at breeding, and the rest of us have been working dogs for a couple of decades. Since we didn't read "The Book" we don't know what we're doing.

*facepalm*



Yeah; I rather got caught up in that drama from a different part of the country. I think because I've crossed paths with the guy who owns the female when he asked me my advice at a show once... and didn't believe me when I tried to help clear up some of his misconceptions on breeding. Read a book, become an expert, then wonder why things aren't working :-S

eishenluft, where you located? I'll try and PM but a big storm now.

JC Carrol, why wouldn't a stud owner explain to the bitch's owner that he is incorrect on their first communication and not try to please them with a breeding on day 24? That sounds to me like a trainer that does an evaluation on a s#!tter that he knows full well that the dog doesn't have what it takes, but takes the person's $ anyhow. If that is the case, they deserve the reputation.

From the what I've heard (I know the stud owner), he told the female-owner that it wouldn't work, which the female-owner didn't believe, so the stud-owner said "okay, we'll try it your way, but it ain't gonna work"... and remarkably enough it didn't. I don't even think money exchanged hands. The female-owner is one of these folks... his head is lodged so far in a certain bodily oriface he won't listen to anyone. He was trying to "explain" to me that you can get a V on a dog without a Sch title if the dog's good enough; couldn't quite grasp the distinction between untitled and working classes. Actually argued this. He's been involved with showing GSDs for nearly two whole years. Thinks he can get a V on his untitled dog when she turns 2. *shrugs* I can't fix that.

Truthfully, I'm just trying to stay out of it.

I have nothing personal against the female's owner, but he doesn't listen to -anyone!-, which makes him very difficult to interact with. Usually you only encounter that level of bullheadedness online ;-)

All the above... also... If the pups turn out GREAT it'll all be due to the strength of the bitch, but if they turn out to be crap then it's blamed on the Male...