Breeding age of a female - Page 2

Hundmutter, is this restriction applicable to both male & female?

I certainly hope that does not apply to males. If so, the quality would surely drop. Some of the top dogs are competing well into middle age, then retired to stud.

I am glad to hear one kennel club did the right thing. But I am with Jenni in that I hope it only applies to females.

Yes it only applies to females. I don't think mating male dogs before two years is advised, either, but I'm unaware of any ceiling where males are considered too old.

I though my female is too old to have pups, when she turns 7....but 12? I 've been breeding GS for 10 years, and trust me, they are worn out by age of 6-7, even if they started at 2 years (not 8 months), and had one litter a year. I am originally from Russia, country with lots of stray dogs, but their kennel club sets a 12 months (females) and 18 months(males) as a minimum age for registering a litter, not sure about max age. Here in USA people seems care a lot about dogs, but the borderlines are pretty wide for using the dog as a breeding machine. At this point people should be aware of the breeder that overuses the dog. I care mostly about the females as the studs have a bit different task in breeding practices. I could imagine a breeding pair of male that is 12 and a female that is 6, but not the opposite combination. No, no, no!

Right ! But of course males tend to be self-limiting, as sperm motility fades when most of them start getting older; using an older dog at stud becomes a chancy business. Lots of old dogs are still willing and capable, but the likelihood of them fathering any pups reduces.

i agree 100 percent with the age of the male, 12 is not a problem for the male and that should be left alone.

I don t imagine the AKC is going to change for the females either , to much money to be lost that way.
The more I think of it. Can you really imagine how much income is generated thru AKC and the miltitudes of puppy mill breedings and litter papers from all them little females stacked in rows, one atop another , atop another, that raises NO red flags to them. Disgusting.
years ago, I bought a little red female Doberman out of a NYC pet store window. Her front legs were bent from being in a crate way to small for her. She was four months old when I bought her so, do the math how much of her life was spent there.
not surprising, I didn't see my post added on AKC Facebook....
I also got a sick feeling looking at my local German Shepherd Clubs Facebook posts where todays top word is papers and basicly knowing where your german shepherd originates, is of no consequence......ugghhh
People gonna do what they gonna do I guess...All I can do is hope for the best for each dog,
it's just a CRYING SHAME

I have to take issue with one thing said, because I agree with most of it. If your females are "worn out" by 6 or 7, something is wrong. Saying you prefer not to breed much past 7, ok...your choice and a respectable one. But goodness, they should not be "worn out" at that age- that's middle age.

Above post points out the issue...it's all up to the individual dog. I'm sure 99% of people wouldn't breed a bitch older than 8 or 9. But what if you have that one special female, the female that has produced excellent and a litter that proves itself to be extra special and at the end of the dog's career you have the chance to repeat and possibly hold back a pup? Would be terrible if the kennel club you had to register under told you no, could also be a huge loss to the breed genetically speaking if none of the dogs in the original litter are in breeding homes.

Sure...we can allow exceptions...but what's the point? You allow one, you have to allow others, and you basically have to allow them all. Become subjective...and you'll have problems. That's why the limit is where it is.