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by hexe on 17 April 2016 - 00:04
Bitch and moan all you want about vets and doctors and such--yet you'll still run to them and expect them to fix your animals or you when some serious illness or ailment arises. Or do you treat everything yourself, with herbs and essences and homeopathic 'energies', and if the patient dies, so be it, at least you didn't have to pay anything to those evil, money-hungry vets and doctors. You accuse both fields of being solely driven by profit, yet I'm pretty damn sure you haven't spent your lifetime working pro bono--you had bills to pay, too, so you needed income just like anyone else.
I'm just pretty sick of nearly every post of yours either damning the veterinary and human medical fields, or touting some unproven, even anecdotally, treatment or preventative method as being far superior to anything that has a track record and some research to back it up.
If anesthetic deaths and damage were as frequent in humans or animals as you try to portray them to be, the outcry would be deafening. General anesthesia is safer now than it was even just ten years ago, and there is a constant effort to improve that safety.
by vk4gsd on 17 April 2016 - 01:04
Inferiority complex much.

by bubbabooboo on 17 April 2016 - 03:04
In healthy dogs the risk of death was 1 in 1849 and in sick dogs the death rate was 1 in 75. Overall the death rate for all dogs in a study of 98,000 dogs was 1 in 601. Your chances of surviving anesthetic use as a human are many times better than those that your dog faces. However the real numbers for deaths in humans is on the rise due to more truthful reporting and the fact that just because you or your dog wake up from anesthesia does not mean that it won't still kill you. The reported numbers for anesthetic death and damage were bogus in the past and are now as well. Half of the deaths in animals occured during the operation and half afterward.
"One hundred and seventeen veterinary practices participated in the study and 98 036 dogs, 79 178 cats and 8209 rabbits were anesthetized and sedated. Overall risks of anesthetic and sedation-related death in dogs were 0.17% (1 in 601, 95% CI 0.14–0.19%), in cats 0.24% (1 in 419, 95% CI 0.20–0.27%) and in rabbits 1.39% (1 in 72, 95% CI 1.14–1.64%) within 48 hours of the procedure. In healthy dogs, cats and rabbits, the risks were estimated to be 0.05% (1 in 1849, 95% CI 0.04–0.07%), 0.11%, (1 in 895, 95% CI 0.09–0.14%) and 0.73% (1 in 137, 95% CI 0.54–0.93%), respectively. In sick dogs, cats and rabbits, the risks were 1.33%, (1 in 75, 95% CI 1.07–1.60%), 1.40% (1 in 71, 95% CI 1.12–1.68%) and 7.37% (1 in 14, 95% CI 5.20–9.54%), respectively. Postoperative deaths accounted for 47% of deaths in dogs, 61% in cats and 64% in rabbits. Most other small animal species had higher mortality risks."
by Paul15 on 19 April 2016 - 19:04

by yogidog on 19 April 2016 - 20:04
If anesthesia is needed there is not much u can do . I personally don't like to put my dogs under .I had an American bulldog pp for 6 years one of the most reliable dogs I ever owned bullet proof with kids and all my family. She needed a small operation so had to b under anesthesia. Everything was going good until the vet tyred to wake her took way longer than normal we got her home that night next couple of days she came back everything was good. Weeks later she changed started growling at my wife and my kids this was all new never had this problem with her in 6 year's it progressed over a few weeks more serious to where we had to put her down . Vet put it down to the problems with the anesthesia and not been able to wake her. But the problem is at times u can't do without it but sometimes the end is not what it should be .just my personal experience that I will always regret. 😢
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