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by jennie on 27 July 2009 - 08:07
I think many will disagree that "Any dog worth his/her salt on this database has tiekerhook in its pedigree", sure there are other good dogs that have no tiekerhook in their lines.
by Vikram on 27 July 2009 - 12:07
example?

by darylehret on 27 July 2009 - 13:07
Vikram, your fanatacism is tiresome. Do you even have a Tiekerhook dog? I'd recommend taking a look at litters produced by Orry, from Van Den Heuvel K9. Every pup I've seen from him also has fantastic drives, environmentally sound, and intelligence I've seldom witnessed.
by jennie on 27 July 2009 - 15:07
jucan v peroh, jabina lexus, uno v stadtfeld, mike vom weinbergblick, como v rurdamm, qurare bosco, hassemans axxe among others.
by Vikram on 27 July 2009 - 15:07
with all due respect I'm no big fan of the Czech lines which have taken over US.
I personally feel Czech line have inherent nerve issues
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I personally feel Czech line have inherent nerve issues
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by mollyandjack on 27 July 2009 - 15:07
Hmmm inherent.
Guess the dogs I've met were freaks. High drive, tough as nails Czech dogs...we never see that...
Guess the dogs I've met were freaks. High drive, tough as nails Czech dogs...we never see that...

by darylehret on 27 July 2009 - 17:07
Actually, Orry is half-Czech. And you don't get the honor of competing a half dozen times at WUSV with a "nervy" dog. Even his progeny have competed on that level. I know better than to stereotype Czech dogs, whatever meaning "nervy" is supposed to imply, as if it's not been equated to Tiekerhook dogs before as well.

by yellowrose of Texas on 27 July 2009 - 20:07
Take a look at a LORD son here is Greg Mominee taking ALk to 7th place in Nationals in Germany
ALK v Osterburg Quell
ALK v Osterburg Quell

by Slamdunc on 27 July 2009 - 20:07
Vikram,
How about Maineiche, Dolleweise, Mohnwiese, von der Luter, Emsbogen, Pendal bach, Bunsenkocker, Karthago, Waldwinkel. I could keep going, I've only scratched the surface. I'm sure my spelling is off on some of the names.
As for Czech dogs don't knock them till you've owned one. There are some awesome czech kennels as well. I have a dog line bred 2-4 on Cordan An Sat, awesome dog. Nerves of steel, no handler aggression. I think Tiekerhook dogs are great, but you could have nerve issues there. It all depends how you define nerves, aggression and drive. Look at the video on their site entitled "food drive", I like high drive, hard dogs but that may be too much for me. Although, it could be fun to train and work dog like that for my next K9.
Like I said, I really like Tiekerhook dogs, but they are not the only kennel producing solid, hard, high drive working dogs. Many other kennels use the same studs he has like Nick, Yoschy etc.
Those are the great producers.
JMO,
Jim
How about Maineiche, Dolleweise, Mohnwiese, von der Luter, Emsbogen, Pendal bach, Bunsenkocker, Karthago, Waldwinkel. I could keep going, I've only scratched the surface. I'm sure my spelling is off on some of the names.
As for Czech dogs don't knock them till you've owned one. There are some awesome czech kennels as well. I have a dog line bred 2-4 on Cordan An Sat, awesome dog. Nerves of steel, no handler aggression. I think Tiekerhook dogs are great, but you could have nerve issues there. It all depends how you define nerves, aggression and drive. Look at the video on their site entitled "food drive", I like high drive, hard dogs but that may be too much for me. Although, it could be fun to train and work dog like that for my next K9.
Like I said, I really like Tiekerhook dogs, but they are not the only kennel producing solid, hard, high drive working dogs. Many other kennels use the same studs he has like Nick, Yoschy etc.
Those are the great producers.
JMO,
Jim
by Vikram on 27 July 2009 - 23:07
DDR and CZech lines were good at one time but not modern times....
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