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by Blitzen on 17 March 2007 - 15:03
This again....sounds similar to the Diamond recall last year. Since I only have one dog, I'm seriously thinking about making my own dog food.
BTW if the recall in only on the moist packages, why the Nutro Max? That's dry kibble, isn't it?

by Shelley Strohl on 17 March 2007 - 16:03
Dry going in... SLOPPY coming out!
Ha ha ha ha ha.
I wouldn't think of trying to make my own dog food. too much margin for error when it comes to balancing the diet, calcium to phosphorous ratio, (check your water!) inaccessibility to valuable components... TIME!
There are so many really good dog foods available today. With just one dog you can afford to feed even the most expensive formulas.
I am going to try Canidae for Carol. Ordered it from a local pet food shop in Jim Thorpe for delivery next week. I don't know if I can afford it for all six adults, or even if its right for all of them, but I'm liking what I see in Kyle's dogs that are on it, (trim, energetic, shiny) so I am giving it a go. My only concern is that it doesn't have the protein level I want to provide for females in whelp and growing pups. (I like 32% or more) Protein = muscle.
Gotta have muscle. If a dog is going to develop pano, its going to develop it whatever you feed.
SS

by Birdy on 17 March 2007 - 16:03
Shelley,
Canidae is good. Best to feed the "All Stages" formula.
Be very careful to start out slow though. And most dogs that eat it need no more than 2 cups a day unless active. Even then build them up slow or you'll (your dog) have the poops for sure.
Great food for a commercial kibble.
Birdy...
by Blitzen on 17 March 2007 - 17:03
When I make Blitz his food, I will use the balanced recipes I have collected over the years. With just one dog, the time is takes isn't really significant. Now if I had multiple dogs, I'd probably not be quite so eager to do it. A friend of mine was one who lost 3 dogs due to the Diamond food poisoning and I always think of that too.
by LellieAussem on 19 March 2007 - 23:03
Please remember they have also recalled the CANNED IAMS and EUKANUBA with GRAVY AND SLICES..also the SCIENCE DIET WITH GRAVY BITS AND SLICES..i too went goofy..i feed my cat a special diet for allergies and being diabetic. So i have been feeding him The Science diet ENTREES...he loves the gravy and bits..and is relentless on letting me know he is NOT HAPPY...the dog foods are the same...IAms..gravy bits..in CANS ALSO...i had to take back a ton...very upsetting...i know..my animals were rescued..and i believe that Menu foods should be held accountable..what on GOd's Earth did they do?....also it seems they really have a corner of the market with this process on all Brands. I dont like it..and you shouldn't either...

by Renz on 22 March 2007 - 22:03
Below is what I received from Solid Gold -
Thank you for your inquiry,
We at Solid Gold realize that customers are very concerned with the recent recall of canned products made by Menu foods. We would like to assure our customers that there are no safety concerns with Solid Gold products. Menu Foods does not make Solid Gold foods in any of their manufacturing facilities. We have no wheat or wheat products in any of our foods. Solid Gold is not subject to the current recall and we do not anticipate any problems with our foods. You may continue to feed Solid Gold food and treats with confidence.
Best regards,
Solid Gold
by Abby_K on 23 March 2007 - 07:03
The reason I signed onto this list is to add my two cents to the dog food recall. First off, check out itchmo.com for more info and also the Menufoodsclassaction yahoo group. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MenuFoodsClassAction/ There are now over 400 members many of whom are bereaved from having just lost a pet. (Even though the FDA drastically underreports.)A massive boycott is due. Veterinarians are often subsidized by the Hill Corporation or at least get perks to sell this crap in their offices and they really don't know much about nutrition. You cannot trust the FDA or the media to report actual numbers. If you want to know details as to how I arrive at these blanket statements, here's the rest of my story: I lost my GSD two years ago to the exact same symptoms from feeding Nutro Natural Choice. Nothing will bring him back, nor will I ever be compensated for expenses. Call me "stupid" but I was just following some advice from one of two veterinarians who assured me that a good quality commercial food was MUCH safer to feed than raw as it was a balanced source of nutrition. They sold Hill products in the office, (go figure) but also approved of NUTRO and some other supposedly top quality foods. I didn't completely agree yet figured, at the worst, it was possibly a little enzyme-deplete from high processing, but certainly didn't consider it would be toxic. My dog still lived a fairly long and healthy life, until suddenly one day he seemed to react to a particular bag of food (Nutro) and became lethargic, went into seizures and shock and then from there it was all downhill. I took him to a holistic vet who advised me to get him entirely off the processed food and switch to a frozen raw product. It seemed a bit pricey, but I tried a few bags and then after another veterinarian dismissed that advice I went back to feeding what I thought was good quality dry kibble. I wish I had taken the naturopath's advise as our dog died of renal failure a few weeks later even after the vet treated him for dehydration and we gave subcutaneous fluids. He worsened and we had to put him down when he was paralyzed and couldn't walk and had no zeal to live anymore. He had clearly been poisoned from the food and died of renal failure. Upon doing some research when he was ill I found out that on several occasions Nutro, along with a few other brands, have been been tested positive to contain Pentobarbital, from euthanized animals. Who knows what other things could be the culprit on this recall, be it wheat gluten processed in a plant that also has ethylene glycol running through it or whatever is found to be the problem this time. The point is, MANY people have recently lost their animals to this and the problem isn't a new one. My present dog is on a completely balanced RAW food diet. Real food is better. We don't need to supersize our dogs on garbage from these heinous outfits. I hope this is a red flag also to the veterinarians who promote the stuff because one thing is certain. It will happen again. At least Menu Foods stocks are plummeting. I hope there's a number of huge class action lawsuits and people BOYCOTT for a long, long time. The FDA ALSO NEEDS TO HAVE MUCH MORE REGULATION OF THE PET FOOD INDUSTRY. But of course you can't trust them either.
by Blitzen on 23 March 2007 - 15:03
The most recent news on this recall is that the contamination was caused by rat poison. I will update with a link as soon as I get it.
by Blitzen on 23 March 2007 - 17:03
The recall also involves canned wet food. A month or so ago, Blitz was very sick with vomiting, diarrhea, and excessive thirst. I really didn't think much of it at the time since it only lasted a day. I was concerned about the excessive thirst though, but it too only lastee 24 hours. Frankly I looked around the yard to see if he might have eaten something toxic; I didn't find anythign suspicious.
At that time he was getting a little canned food with his RC kibble. I bought it at PetSmart and it was the Nutro brand. I gave him pepto and withheld all food for 24 hours. After that he ate boiled chicken and rice for 3 days and I threw out the rest of the can of Nutro. It was the last can I bought, I think he ate 3 cans all together. He's fine now, didn't have to take him to the vet's thankfully. If he were a small dog who ate that stuff exclusively, he might not be around today. A cooincidence? Maybe, I'll never know but I do know that I will never again buy him one more can of dog food regardless of who makes it.

by blueshep on 24 March 2007 - 00:03
This is from Canidae dog food.
Industry Can Recall
In light of the unfortunate current can recall by other respectable pet food manufacturers, our phone lines and emails are tied up with concerned customers. We want you, our valued customer, to feel secure with the continued use of our canned products. CANIDAE® canned foods in no way is affected by the recall, nor are any of our products produced in any of the recalled production facilities.
CANIDAE Pet Foods also does not produce cuts and gravies, pouches, and does not contain corn, wheat or soybeans in any of our products or formulations, and all ingredients are of US origin.
Our heartfelt concerns go out to all those affected by the recall.
CANIDAE Pet Foods
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