What are the hardest working showlines - Page 2

Indo Geesthugel is a good worker as is Laius Moorbeck and was Burschy zum alten Eichenhof. All sired by Vando Moorbeck who is an Ulk Arlett son.

i breed quite a few i think gorgous blk/tan in my program but people here especially where i am want the more recent rin tin tin look with the saddle my black and tans are just that all blk tan legs to the elbows and tan cheeks

Have you looked at the Urban, Ghandi son, line ? I have male who is super and a female who is equally good, both are really nice black and dark gold colour, nice dogs

i have email margret herself at arlett and asked her to try to set me up with some prospects she is working on a couple of things so i am sure it'll be something from ghandi flipp etc. somewhere

Haus Mansfield kennels has a bitch named Gipsi Vom Sawtooth whos a Ghandi von Arlett daughter and Ulk von Arlett grand daughter... Her protection is very satisfaction. Gipsi's protection video can be seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c2OLDgfmeY

Nikkigsd, please look at Djenges Khan von Santes Home: http://www.altenberger-land.de/Djenges-Khan-01.html His scores were 96/94/96! Not bad for a showdog! You can see a video of his bitework at the above link, and please, do turn the sound up! Djenges has been talked about on German boards as well, so his bitework is real. The funny thing is that his pedigree does not really indicate outstanding workability. Neither the Esko Daenischen Hof-line or the Yasko-line is known for it. But it proofs that you can find this in showlines as well. Please let me know your opinion! Also, other dogs which produce nice drives in Germany are Tiras vom Roten Feld and Nando vom Gollerweiher, both out of the Enzo-line, just like Teejay! Chris

Correction: His scores were 94/96/96, but the end score of 286 is the same! Chris

Kevin Murrtal who sired Faskus and Faye Kirschental, 2003 HGH male and female champions respectively.

BTW, would looking at the popularity of the stud dog used for HGH be a yardstick that we may use for hardest working showline?

Laris, Kevin is a representative of the Ulk-line. HGH is the original work which was intended for the GSD. It is a conscensus that there are lots of working dogs: Herding, SAR, guiding dogs, avalanche dogs, police dogs, military working dogs etc. etc. So, not all working dogs are required to do bitework. Herding dogs do less bitework as the sport dogs in SchH. At the beginning (founding) of our breed, SchH was not known, only herding. The only bitework required was a "gentle" (for lack of better term) bite to keep the sheep in line. The dogs had to be calm and very clear in the head. It was said somewhere else that these hard-hitting (biting) sport dogs would be devasting and would result in heavy losses in the sheep herd, lol. So, personally I think that there are deficits in both, the working and the show lines when it comes to what our founder had in mind. On the other hand, everything evolves, since time does not stand still. For a breed to "survive", it has to make amends to the tasks of our modern times! In Germany, only very few GSDs still herd, and from the ones which do, the majority is in competition. So, the question is: What do we need our GSDs for nowadays? IMO, as a family companion (foremost), SAR, assistance, avalanche, guiding, police etc. Not everything requires bitework. So, the most important attribute our dogs should have is a great temperament and a willingness to work, whatever that may be. As to breeding, that is a different story: Not every working dog is also breed worthy! Sorry, if that seems a bit off-topic, but I wanted to define "hard working" a bit better, since most people(myself included) think immediately about bitework. Chris