questions on structure. - Page 2

Trying to make them look like they have the popular sloping top line....ugly!

Front, please do not hesitate to keep asking till you are confident you understand the answer very well. People here will help

Thank you. That's another thing maybe I can be looking at some pics wrong. Maybe alot of the working lines are stacking them wrong.
Ibrahim j ow do you know the exact degrees by standard is there a book I can buy to learn more about conformation?

The stack makes all the difference. He has more angulation than many working lines,but he's been scrunched, had his butt pushed down, his front lifted up, a food stuck behind to keep his hock nearly on the ground under him and the angle isn't helping. 

Here's an example of a stack pic vs. the real dog. 

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=cs&u=http://www.krasnoocko.cz/html/beauty_obr.htm&prev=search

I own this dog, so I'm not picking on anyone else's dogs. Look at her in these pics then look below. Please excuse her weight/coat in the first pic- I had just picked her up from the airport the night before. In the quarry pics, she was standing downhill, but you can still see that she is by no means the roachy, angulated creature her stack photo shows.

 

The easiest and most beneficial for beginners is this set of Videos

http://www.dogwise.com/ItemDetails.cfm?ID=B1133

 

This is the best that was written on GSD structure, not very easy though

PDF

http://www.google.jo/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gsdcouncilaustralia.org%2Flouis_donald_article.pdf&ei=-j61VMmbDsvzavi1goAB&usg=AFQjCNEXq63-SyzLS4Z8S8qhF13ng4tp8w&bvm=bv.83339334,d.d24

Jenni gorgeous dog.
Ibrahim- thanks I will defiantly read that I've already downloaded it. Maybe when I get some extra money I will buy the DVD. Thanks again
i also have a hard time understanding linebreeding
maybe you can help out with that. I don't quite understand the numbers in it. What is good to breed and what is bad to breed?

Front, I wish I could help you with linebreeding, best people that could help with that are breeders like Jenni, Joanro, Duke and ................ many others, Sunsilver is a well educated member here, we have many brilliant members who are better than myself in this regard

this type of stack popular it seems among czech breeders, opion on stack, not on dog.

 

please only crtique the stack postioning, do not critique dog, i am not the owner and the owner did not post it asking for a critique of their dog.

 

copied from pdb classified.

 

The stack

the rear leg near to viewer which in this case is the right rear leg is pushed back more than should resulting in hock not standing perpendicular to ground as should be. This was done to exaggerate the topline slope. Which is wrong in my opinion as it does not show true angulations of the dog in stack.

Stacking into pose is for evaluation by judge. All dogs need to stand certain way to be compared. It is tradition. it is like a body builder stacking a pose. 

perfect shape for animals in legged animal king dome is square. 

thus arab horse build for speed and endurance is square. 

grayhond is square 

wolf is square: 

Thus I believe that working dog should be square  or close to it

 Anyway JMO> 

Prager Hans