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by Jenni78 on 25 January 2014 - 14:01
His liver and kidneys could be suffering. I would take him in for blood at the very least- see what his liver and kidney values are. Oxy would concern me a great deal. Supportive therapy now could save him. If you wait a day or two, it may be too late. My Chi was poisoned by something (possible spider bite, possibly ate a poisoned mouse- still no idea) and boy I wish I'd known before he was sympomatic that something had happened. I didn't know until he had bad enough bleeding that his face, neck, and front legs turned purple. $3600 and 3 transfusions later, he's fine.

by alienor on 25 January 2014 - 23:01
Make an infusion (soak in water then filter out the particals through a coffee filter) of some good charcoal (made from wood, not coal) and give some to the dog. Syringe it down if he won't drink. Doesn't take much. Start with a tablespoon or two.

by vtgsd on 26 January 2014 - 13:01
Jenni I agree! This post is just mind boggling to me! If any of my dogs couldn't stop vomiting and I thought they ate "human" pills or pieces of them they would be at the vets ASAP! Whether they were 5 months, 5 years or 15 years old! Heck they would be headed to the vets regardless of what I thought they ate if they couldn't stop vomiting! I wouldn't try to stop vomiting since their body might be trying to expel something. I would withhold food/water and get them to the vets!

by Abby Normal on 26 January 2014 - 13:01
I would be freaked if a dog of mine ate any pills of any kind and I would be straight to the vet. As Jen says, supportive therapy in a variety of forms,could mitigate permanent damage even though the medication may have already been absorbed. I hope he is OK.

by Dawulf on 27 January 2014 - 21:01
It is not like he was projectile vomitting CONSTANTLY. He puked twice, about 18 hrs apart. That is upset tummy puking. HAD we known he may have possibly gotten a pill right away, we would've taken him to the vet or induced vomitting or something, and had it been constant exorcist type puking, yeah, we would've taken him to the vet. It was not until almost 36 hrs after it would've been ingested that we found out he MAY have gotten one and by that time what is done is done.
alienor - what does that do?
At any rate, he is not *MY* dog, so *I* do not have a say in whether he goes in or not. But I have relayed the information given to my dad, and we'll see. Yapper is perfectly fine now, has not puked since that second time.
alienor - what does that do?
At any rate, he is not *MY* dog, so *I* do not have a say in whether he goes in or not. But I have relayed the information given to my dad, and we'll see. Yapper is perfectly fine now, has not puked since that second time.

by Hundmutter on 27 January 2014 - 23:01
Activated charcoal is good for taking toxins out of the dogs gut;
kind of soaks them up and neutralises them. Last time my vet
recommended it was when a couple of the 'work' dogs got into
some chocolate left around; one showed signs of having eaten the
most, so she was made to throw up to empty her stomach, but the
other dog didn't look as if he'd got hold of much of it, if any, and they
couldn't get him to vomit much, so they sent him home on a dose
of charcoal, with instructions to repeat at intervals over the next 24
hours. I haven't come across it made into an infusion as per alienor's
recipe, but that is the basic use.
kind of soaks them up and neutralises them. Last time my vet
recommended it was when a couple of the 'work' dogs got into
some chocolate left around; one showed signs of having eaten the
most, so she was made to throw up to empty her stomach, but the
other dog didn't look as if he'd got hold of much of it, if any, and they
couldn't get him to vomit much, so they sent him home on a dose
of charcoal, with instructions to repeat at intervals over the next 24
hours. I haven't come across it made into an infusion as per alienor's
recipe, but that is the basic use.

by kitkat3478 on 27 January 2014 - 23:01
I have also used the activated charcoal for my fish filters on the dogs. Poured right down the throat.
It is a good thing to keep on hand, just in case...
It is a good thing to keep on hand, just in case...

by alienor on 28 January 2014 - 23:01
Yes charcoal is a natural filter.You have described it very well. My experience was with one of my Russels that had gotten into something; who knows what; but she was hurling very bad, maybe once an hour. Assuming poison of some sort I dosed her with the charcoal which worked very quickly. With that much vomiting dehydration is the big danger, just one or two hurls I wouldn't worry, dogs are very good at getting nasty stuff out of their stomachs.
But that wasn't quite the end of the story. After her stomach settled down she seemed fine. But then she began to circle. I don't remember if it was the same day or the day after. But she went round and round. She could work her way towards you but not in a straight line. Neurological damage of some sort as far as I could see, but no obvious bites or wounds, swelling or anything of that sort. I live far from other people so I figured a copperhead was more likely than poison, but as I said, there was no real clue as to what had brought on the violent stomach upset and the following disorientation.
Before I could even get her into the car to go to the vet she got run over in the driveway because she could not get out of the way of my neighbor's giant sized pick up truck in time.
I don't think he ever even knew he hit her.
All round sad story.
But the charcoal worked great.
But that wasn't quite the end of the story. After her stomach settled down she seemed fine. But then she began to circle. I don't remember if it was the same day or the day after. But she went round and round. She could work her way towards you but not in a straight line. Neurological damage of some sort as far as I could see, but no obvious bites or wounds, swelling or anything of that sort. I live far from other people so I figured a copperhead was more likely than poison, but as I said, there was no real clue as to what had brought on the violent stomach upset and the following disorientation.
Before I could even get her into the car to go to the vet she got run over in the driveway because she could not get out of the way of my neighbor's giant sized pick up truck in time.
I don't think he ever even knew he hit her.
All round sad story.
But the charcoal worked great.

by Sunsilver on 29 January 2014 - 13:01
They also still use charcoal to treat human victims of poisoning or attempted suicide. A friend of mine was made to drink liquid charcoal after a suicide attempt involving multiple pills. 


by Jenni78 on 29 January 2014 - 13:01
Sunsilver, what is the best, safest way to get it so I can keep some on hand? I'm really thinking with the number of dogs and a 4yr old boy that sometimes shares things he shouldn't, it would be wise for me to add it to my aresnal.
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