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by LadyFrost on 21 November 2013 - 08:11
mine just arrived, haven't had a chance to give it to dogs yet, but cat (Gus) tore a hole in a bag and pulled one out...i think he is teething he had been chewing on everything...sticks i got are 12 inch and are bigger than him but he had a blast chewing on one..LOL...
by Jenni78 on 21 November 2013 - 09:11
Poor Cisco seems plagued with really horrendous luck.
by Nans gsd on 21 November 2013 - 20:11
Hope they are NOT packaged in China... watch for that guys...like the Jerky treats are and Dogswell actually lied and said theirs were tested and tested negative for poisonous stuff from China and denied all that when I called them and come to find out they WERE packaged in China was in print a couple of months ago. Soooo, heads up to everyone... Nan
by beetree on 21 November 2013 - 20:11
Double post
by beetree on 21 November 2013 - 20:11
Nan, did you really want to sound that uninformed?
by hexe on 21 November 2013 - 23:11
I suspect that the problem with Cisco & the bully stick was related to protein from the bully stick being introduced directly into the bloodstream via the abrasions and ulcerations the item created in Cisco's esophagus and stomach when he swallowed the pieces. That protein introduction into the blood most likely resulted in a hyperimmune response from Cisco's body, ultimately triggering the Myasthenia Gravis attack. It should be noted that samples of bully sticks from various manufacturers, when subjected to testing, were found to be contaminated with Clostridium difficile, E. coli, and MRSA, and are extremely high in cholesterol--none of which are good things to have introduced into the bloodstream from a foreign object.
Everybody has to make their own choices as to what's safe for their dog; and sometimes you end up having to change your mind after something you've never had any problems with suddenly is linked to the development of a serious illness or even death of your dog. I'm not a big fan of the bully sticks, because I find them to be smelly, and I don't like that they are small enough to lodge in the trachea of large dogs. Don't care for pig ears, as the fat content is insane and so is the caloric content. Lots of folks view all rawhide products as dangerous and awful, and refuse to allow their dogs to have anything of that type. The only problem I've ever encountered with rawhide chews have been greedy dogs that would try to swallow the chew before it had been sufficiently gnawed to a soft, soggy mass that slid easily down the esophagus--swallow too soon, and the chew can get stuck in the throat, making it necessary to manually fish the thing out of there. I still give rawhide chews occasionally, but it's the pressed rawhide bones that are easier for the dogs to chew into small pieces of easily-swallowed size...and I never give them unless I will be there for the full amount of time it will take for the dogs to finish consuming them.
If I were clc29, I don't think I could ever give a dog of mine a bully stick for the rest of my life, after what they went through with Cisco. I think it's important that she shared this information with everyone here because if nothing else, now those who purchased these are all aware that there could very well be a link between the bully stick and the illness Cisco went on to develop, and you know to be aware of this when you give them to your own dogs, and heaven forbid that one of your dogs take ill shortly after having a bully stick, you'll make sure your vet looks into whether that dog has any ulcerations of the esophagus and/or stomach, and have myasthenia gravis in the back of your mind if he/she begins having problems with their mobility.
Everybody has to make their own choices as to what's safe for their dog; and sometimes you end up having to change your mind after something you've never had any problems with suddenly is linked to the development of a serious illness or even death of your dog. I'm not a big fan of the bully sticks, because I find them to be smelly, and I don't like that they are small enough to lodge in the trachea of large dogs. Don't care for pig ears, as the fat content is insane and so is the caloric content. Lots of folks view all rawhide products as dangerous and awful, and refuse to allow their dogs to have anything of that type. The only problem I've ever encountered with rawhide chews have been greedy dogs that would try to swallow the chew before it had been sufficiently gnawed to a soft, soggy mass that slid easily down the esophagus--swallow too soon, and the chew can get stuck in the throat, making it necessary to manually fish the thing out of there. I still give rawhide chews occasionally, but it's the pressed rawhide bones that are easier for the dogs to chew into small pieces of easily-swallowed size...and I never give them unless I will be there for the full amount of time it will take for the dogs to finish consuming them.
If I were clc29, I don't think I could ever give a dog of mine a bully stick for the rest of my life, after what they went through with Cisco. I think it's important that she shared this information with everyone here because if nothing else, now those who purchased these are all aware that there could very well be a link between the bully stick and the illness Cisco went on to develop, and you know to be aware of this when you give them to your own dogs, and heaven forbid that one of your dogs take ill shortly after having a bully stick, you'll make sure your vet looks into whether that dog has any ulcerations of the esophagus and/or stomach, and have myasthenia gravis in the back of your mind if he/she begins having problems with their mobility.
by Nans gsd on 22 November 2013 - 13:11
Beetree what did you not understand about my post ? Dogswell jerky treats were recalled a couple of months ago due to them being packaged in China... At the time I made the phone call to Dogswell when all the other jerky treats were being recalled coming from China they denied that their's ever went to China for packaging; were recently recalled for that exact same thing. Hopefully I have made myself clear. Nan
by beetree on 22 November 2013 - 14:11
Nans: This particular brand on sale mentioned by the OP does not come from China. You do a disservice with confusing information on how you paint your broad brush. If you call and find out they do indeed come from China, I will eat my words and most certainly will apologize.
Hexe,
I had no idea e-coli could be related to the Myasthenia Gravis attack. I wonder at what temperature it is killed? Does the dehydration process use heat? And to be safe, what if the one's I have that are shrink-wrapped, that don't have a batch date, I wonder if boiling hot water would destroy ecoli?
Hexe,
I had no idea e-coli could be related to the Myasthenia Gravis attack. I wonder at what temperature it is killed? Does the dehydration process use heat? And to be safe, what if the one's I have that are shrink-wrapped, that don't have a batch date, I wonder if boiling hot water would destroy ecoli?
by Nans gsd on 22 November 2013 - 16:11
Just wanted to give everyone a heads up; did not state that this particular product came from China...
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