Market over-saturated? - Page 2

On the Market over-saturation, I think there is alot of popularity for the smaller purse dogs and as the population gets older, I think many will downsize, altho, I do not get it. I agree with GET A REAL DOG. Another thought is, insurance and public perception of dangerous breeds, it is getting harder to have the breeds we so love.

Good points all. Overall I think the internet has played a big role in expanding the ability of people to source good dogs. One thing that I find somewhat amazing is the high number of titled dogs. So many people have VA,V, KKl1A etc dogs for sale. On one side you would think that the overall quality of the GSD should be better?

$5000. is ludicrous for a puppy... ANY puppy.

I think so too. It does amaze me that some people will pay that. I don't blame the breeder though, whatever people will pay go for it. Some people have more money than brains.

I think it's not more money than brains i think it's ignorance on the buyer's part, not doing the research and just figuring that if it cost that much it has to be the best. i know this because i am in the buying phase and i've talked to many breeders that say well you can look around, but other's are interested and you won't find a better pup for this price, so if you really want her/him i'll need a non-refundable deposit. well sorry , but i'll need a few day's to look into the dog and if i end up missing a great dog, well i have nothing but time to fine another great dog for now atleast. i think i've found my "magical pair" but it may well not be? so that's why i'm here learning as much as i can, and asking people who know! so thanks for everyone's patience explaining all this too me, just to help some family that you don't even know yet.

In our area we have had people come to us because of a very well known kennel was being very pushy and obnoxious on buying their puppies, at least that is what we are told. That is one thing that we don't do is push people into something they are not sure of. We always try to explain what exactly they would be getting into and then we start asking them questions if they are still interested. This kennel is at the same price as DesertRangers stated at the begining.

Pushing someone into something they may not be completely aware of is NOT a nice thing to do. We take our time getting to know folks, and mostly getting to know what they want/need from an addition to they're family. We have had great luck and so far so good all buyers are very happy. What's with the NON Refundable deposit thing, I personally have an issue with that, How can anyone justify taking someones money's without providing a service for those money's received ?? This provision really does puzzle me. I can understand holding those funds until a new buyer is found but not NON Refundable, to me/for me it's not an honorable thing to practice. Just my OP though so please don't stab me for it.

Echo--I can put it in a very understandable light for you. My own policy is that a deposit is generally non refundable, unless I do not have what they requested in my litter, in which case I refund the deposit to them. The reasons are: *I will now have to re-advertise the puppy, whereas I could have sold her to other people who called to inquire on buying her and I turned them away. *If the buyers back out, then I may have advertising expenditures which are about the cost of the deposit. *Time is money. I will also have to make sure I work the puppy consistently, and keep the puppy socialized and in training-- crate training, bitework, socialization out in public, leash training, and probably housebreaking, until such time as she actually sells and goes to her new home. Doing right by puppy after weaning is a considerable amount of work, when I already have 2 adult dogs I am training and an over the top drivey puppy of my own I am training as well.

When I was breeding my contract said in essence - in the estimation of the breeder, if there is no suitable puppy available, the deposit will either be refunded or credited toward a puppy from another litter as agreed upon by all involved parties. I think that a breeder should either provide the dog that is described in the receipt of payment or refund the money, buyer's choice. It's not fair to make a buyer wait for another dog. I only bred a litter once a year. However, if a buyer simply lost interest or bought a dog elsewhere, I didn't routinely refund that money and would not have offered a dog from another litter either. I never had that happen, but think it would have depended on the reason for the buyer not wanting that puppy. Sometimes there are circumstances that are clearly beyond the control of the buyer. If it were a matter of that buyer finding a dog elswhere, then they would have been out the deposit. I had to think about how long it might take to find another suitable home for that puppy. I often had puppies long after their first birthday, dogs weren't always as easy to sell as now. We didn't always have the internet LOL.

AKV and Blitzen, Thank You for shedding some additional light to that prospect, I still don't think I could in good concious do it, But I do understand what your saying especailly the part of continued care, socializing training, and so on. Thanks both of you.